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Did deep sleep broke for anyone else recently or is it just me? (programming.dev)

submitted 2 years ago by Tushta@programming.dev to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I was running KDE Neon on ThinkBook 15 G2 and had deep sleep working after adding mem_sleep_default=deep to GRUB_CMDLINE. It worked for a while until it didn't. I didn't do anything other than running regulat updates. Since couple weeks back, when going to sleep, it shows BIOS Recovery progress bar or something and restarts.

I switched to Debian and the behavior is the same. S2 sleep is next to useless as it drains something like 10% battery / hour, and the lap top is warm to touch.

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[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yeah, my sleep schedule is pretty bad since the holiday.... Oh, Oooooh.

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[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I was up until 2am last night because the air felt "wrong"

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[–] Jordan_U@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

This talk introduces sleepgraph, a tool that might help you debug your s2ram issues.

The talk may also convince you that, for your specific hardware, s2idle might be better than s2ram:

https://youtu.be/Pv5KvN0on0M

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 2 points 2 years ago

running sleepgraph crashes the computer same way deep sleep does 😖

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[–] fxdave@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You still had deep sleep until now? Lucky you. To me Dell forbided S3 way earlier.

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 4 points 2 years ago

So... Bios update broke deep sleep, because fuck you, that's why?

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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

For everyone I think

[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Is deep sleep the same thing as hibernation? Hibernation is broken for me even on new EndeavourOS install on two different laptops.

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 3 points 2 years ago

No, hibernation saves state to disk, and turns the computer off, drawing no power. Deep sleep is what was for me just sleep until recently: it uses power to keep data in ram, so it's faster to wake up than hibernation. The amount of power used is really small, so unless you don't use your lap top for a couple of days, it won't deplete the battery. New hardware has this new "S2 Idle" state, that is basically an "On" state minus the screen and it's OS's job to try to use as little power as possible usually by telling each and every device to chill as much as possible (this is my understanding, but don't quote me on this). On Windows, with the first party device drivers, this sorta works OK + OS drops to deep sleep or hibernation depending on battery or something.

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

specs?

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

It's 2021 Lenovo ThinkBoot 15 G2 Intl with Intel i3-1115G4, 8GB onboard ram, integrated GPU and two NVME slots.

Here are some lines from dmidecode if they mean anything to anyone:

Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 3.3.0 present.
Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 26 bytes
BIOS Information
        Vendor: LENOVO
        Version: F8CN42WW(V2.05)
        Release Date: 06/28/2021
        Address: 0xE0000
        Runtime Size: 128 kB
        ROM Size: 16 MB
        Characteristics:
                PCI is supported
                BIOS is upgradeable
                BIOS shadowing is allowed
                ACPI is supported
                USB legacy is supported
                BIOS boot specification is supported
                Targeted content distribution is supported
                UEFI is supported
        BIOS Revision: 2.42
        Firmware Revision: 2.42

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
        Manufacturer: LENOVO
        Product Name: 20VE
        Version: ThinkBook 15 G2 ITL
        SKU Number: LENOVO_MT_20VE_BU_idea_FM_ThinkBook 15 G2 ITL
        Family: ThinkBook 15 G2 ITL

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
        Manufacturer: LENOVO
        Product Name: LNVNB161216
        Version: SDK0J40700 WIN

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

so cat /sys/power/mem_sleep or whatever outputs with the brackets on deep?

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah, if the bracket is on deep, it crashes and enter the BIOS recovery thingy. If it's s2idle, it does what it says on the tin.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

have you updated EFI/BIOS recently? maybe S3 sleep is not supported on your system anymore and instead you get suspend-to-idle as S0ix (Modern Standby) notoriously shitty under linux. sometimes you can flip it back in EFI/BIOS

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[–] Tushta@programming.dev [S] 1 point 2 years ago

I have a Windows dual boot, and Windows did install some updates, and Lenovo site indicates that the latest BIOS version was released mid November, so that could be it.

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