2023 was the year that GPUs stood still::A new GPU generation did very little to change the speed you get for your money.

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[+] 155 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] 125 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Hands up if you/someone you know purchased a Steam Deck or other computer handheld, instead of upgrading their GPU 🙋‍♂️

To be honest I stopped following PC hardware altogether because things were so stagnant outside of Intel's alder lake and the new x86 P/E cores. GPUs that would give me a noticeable performance uplift from my 1060 aren't really at appealing prices outside the US either IMO

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's diminishing returns.

    We need a giant leap forward to show a noticeable effect now.

    Like, if a cars top speed was 10mph, a 5 mph increase is fucking huge.

    But getting a supercar to top off at 255 instead of 250, just isn't a huge deal. And you wouldn't notice unless you were testing it.

    So even if they keep increasing power at a steady rate, the end user is going to notice it less and less everytime.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We had hardware getting massive leaps for years. Problem is, devs got used to hardware having enough grunt to overcome lack of optimizations. Now we got shit coming out barely holding 60+ on 4080s and requiring usage of FSR or DLSS as a bandaid to make the game get back to playable framerates.

    If you’ve got 30 series or 7000 series from AMD you don’t need to look for a more performant card, you need devs to put in time for polish and optimization before launch and not 6 months down the line IF the game is a commercial success.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    From 2020 I planned on building a new gaming PC. Bought an ITX case and followed hardware releases closely... And then got disillusioned with it all.

    Picked up a Steam Deck in August of 2022 and couldn't be happier with it. The ITX case is collecting dust.

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    [–] 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You guys think I should upgrade my Voodoo 3 card? No one is joining my quake server anymore anyway

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Given technological progress and efficiency improvements I would argue that 2023 is the year the gpu ran backwards. We've been in a rut since 2020... and arguably since the 2018 crypto explosion.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A lot of people did this. The GPU market for gaming might have actually shrunk. You would think Nvidia would panic but due to AI chip demand their stock is at an ATH and no company changes course or reevaluates and what they're doing when shareholders are lining up to suck their dicks, so...no end in sight. Meanwhile AMD doesn't seem to want to even try to make a play for market share.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Still rocking a 1080. I don't see a big enough reason to upgrade yet. I mostly play PC games on my steam deck anyways. I thought starfield was going to give me a reason. Cyberpunk before that. I'm finally playing cyberpunk but the advanced haptics on PS5 sold me on going that route over my PC.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I just "upgraded" from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 4060 Ti 16Gb, but only because I was building a PC for my boyfriend and gave him the 1080. I'm really not seeing a noticeable difference in frame rate on 1440p.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    1080 gang rise up.

    But seriously, my 1080 does fine for most things, and I have a 2k 144hz monitor. It's JUST starting to show its age as I can't blast everything on high/ultra anymore and have to turn down the biggest fps guzzling settings.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I just upgraded from a 1070 to a 3060ti. The numbers definitely did not justify a 4060ti.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As someone who upgraded from a 2016 GPU to a 2023 one I was completely fine with this. Prices finally came down and I got the best card 2023 offered me, which may not have been impressive for this generation but was incredible from what I came from.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And how much did you pay for the 2016 card, what range was it in, and what is the new card's cost and range?

    Overal, gpus have been a major ripoff, despite these upgrades giving good performance boosts

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I believe about $300 for an AMD RX480 (great card and still going strong). This time I had a bit more money and wanted something more powerful. I went with the AMD 7800 XT Nitro ($550) which I got on release day. Sure it's not top of the line but it has played pretty much everything I throw at it with all settings set to max and still maintaining 60fps or above. I have an UW monitor with its max resolution being 5120x1440 which is what most games will play at and everything still plays fine. It's almost crazy to me that this card would be considered mid range.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    intel GPUs definitely won out for what you get for the money

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    I finally upgraded my GTX970 to a used RTX 3080 for 300€. The difference at least for me for the same 300€ was insane.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I just don't see the point in upgrading every new release anyway, or even buying the most expensive one. I've had my gigabyte Rx 570 for several years and I can play Baldurs Gate 3 full settings with no issues. Maybe I haven't tasted 120 fps but I'm just happy I can play modern games. When it comes time to get a new graphics card, which may be soon since I am planning to build my wife's PC, maybe then I'll see what's going on with the higher end ones. Maybe I'm just a broke ass though.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    Ya the problem I landed in was not anticipating how hard it would be to push my new monitor. Ultra wide 2.5k resolution with 144Hz. I can't do cyberpunk full res more than 60fps, and that's with dlss enabled and not all settings at max.

    2070s

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I had to buy 3070 ti at scalped price. Ended up paying £700 for it. I hate myself for it but the prices didn't shift for months after and my gtx 1080 kicked the bucket. No way in hell am I buying anything this gen. My wife's 1080 is going for now, maybe we'll get 5080 if it's not a rip off.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Its nvidia, its always a ripoff :p

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    NVIDIA fucking sucks. But I do a lot of modeling in blender and holy damn do I want that RTX.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    So how about the 2½ years from 2016 to 2018 between Nvidia GFX 1080ti and RTX 2080?
    I think the headline should say A Year not THE year.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    What's everyone's recommendation for a cheap AMD GPU to use with Linux? I was looking recently at a Radeon RX 580, I know there are much better cards out there but the prices are about double (£350-400 instead of £180). I'd mostly be using it to play games like the remastered Rome Total War.

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    [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I upgraded from an RX 480 to an RTX 3060 a few days ago. Crazy difference, especially in compute

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    [–] [B] 4 points 2 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The performance gains were small, and a drop from 12GB to 8GB of RAM isn't the direction we prefer to see things move, but it was still a slightly faster and more efficient card at around the same price.

    In all, 2023 wasn't the worst time to buy a $300 GPU; that dubious honor belongs to the depths of 2021, when you'd be lucky to snag a GTX 1650 for that price.

    But these numbers were only possible in games that supported these GPUs' newest software gimmick, DLSS Frame Generation (FG).

    The technology is impressive when it works, and it's been successful enough to spawn hardware-agnostic imitators like the AMD-backed FSR 3 and an alternate implementation from Intel that's still in early stages.

    And DLSS FG also adds a bit of latency, though this can be offset with latency-reducing technologies like Nvidia Reflex.

    But to put it front-and-center in comparisons with previous-generation graphics cards is, at best, painting an overly rosy picture of what upgraders can actually expect.


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