Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.

So, Trump campaign operatives scrambled to fly copies of the phony certificates from Michigan and Wisconsin to the nation’s capital, relying on a haphazard chain of couriers, as well as help from two Republicans in Congress, to try to get the documents to then-Vice President Mike Pence while he presided over the Electoral College certification.

The operatives even considered chartering a jet to ensure the files reached Washington, DC, in time for the January 6, 2021, proceeding, according to emails and recordings obtained by CNN.

The new details provide a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the chaotic last-minute effort to keep Donald Trump in office. The fake electors scheme features prominently in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal indictment against the former president, and some of the officials who were involved have spoken to Smith’s investigators.

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[–] 267 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In true GOP fashion, their destruction of the USPS fucked them over, so they started scrambling, got sloppy, and now there is a recording of what transpired. You cannot write this amount of dumbassery.

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    [–] 221 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's oddly pleasing that the slowdown in mail caused him pain/inconvenience.

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  • [–] 172 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    caused by none other than his own appointee DeJoy, whose entire goal in the USPS is to dismantle it and privatize it.... talk about reaping what you sow lol

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  • [–] 125 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I hope this is true so I can use it the next time my dad goes on some diatribe about how the democrats are ruining the country or how he couldn’t vote for any other than Trump in good faith.

    If this is true, everyone who continues to support him is outright against our country.

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  • [–] 104 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You think this is gonna change a single MAGA mind? Your dad will just put his fingers in his ears and chant fake news.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My brother, a Canadian who is socially liberal, economically conservative, and virtually apolitical thinks the fake elector thing is bs.

    He doesn't care if it did or didn't happen.

    I am not saying this to contradict you. I am supportive of your point. This is unlikely to even remote reach most people in a meaningful way, let alone die hard Trump fans that somehow think he's a virile, brave, genius business person with big hands and an animal musk that Larry from Three's Company would envy.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (45 children)

    It's just brain washing. They keep saying the Democrats are ruining the country and if you don't vote for trump you won't have a country. They say it over and over nonstop until people believe it. They say it on Fox News they say it on tweeter. And they encourage their peers to say it. It's insane that it works so easily. I'm appalled and amazed at the same time.

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  • [–] 117 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    That should be the smoking gun right there. Wonder what kind of lies and bullshit they're going to throw at this one.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    There's so many smoking guns at this point you can field an army with them.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I think everyone is so bumfuzzled because they didn't hide any of it. It was out in the open, live tweeting acts of treason. Smoking guns are really important when you didn't watch them load the gun, aim the gun, and shoot the gun. We all saw the entire crime in real time, and it's weird that justice is taking this long.

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    [–] 107 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail

    Reminder that Trump's Postmaster General sabotaged the post office's handling capacity in order to interfere with absentee voting.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah how come that everyone already has forgotten about that one? I remember people having problems with receiving critical medication (and that was just a 'side effect') because of this yet nobody's talking about it anymore

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    [–] 73 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This man should not be able to run at all lol.

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Another opportunity to say all I really want is a plugin that replaces every instance of "Ron Johnson" with "That fucker, Ron Johnson."

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    FoxReplace lets you set up custom substitutions like you suggest.

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    [–] 63 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I’m going to need all you libtards to show me where on the constitution it says that crimes are illegal or that presidents can’t commit a lil treason every now and then

    Also, what’s taking so long to throw this shitbag in jail already

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Everyone keeps talking about how Biden will likely win against Trump. I don't disagree. Most of my concern is if Trump is allowed to run just how much more brazen him and his team will be.

    Not to mention how dangerous his supporters may become. Cults aren't known for their logical and clear understanding.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The worst part, is the states that have proposed blocking trump from the ballot aren't really swing states, so it will just embolden his supporters if he wins to be like "they tried to cheat and still lost!"

    Like, a state like Tennessee could not include Biden on the ballots and it wouldn't change the outcome of the presidential election with how the electoral college votes are calculated.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Hope that those with ties to this attempted insurrection get called for being traitors and be at least, banned yo get any work in government

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm so sick of donnie diapers not only still walking around a free man, he might get back into power again.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Mike Pence is a national hero. he knew about these and said he wouldn't accept them even if delivered. he stood strong when thousands outside wanted to lynch him. As much as I don't agree with him, he is a true patriot. I don't think he gets enough credit. without his backbone we would be in an even crazier place.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago

    Hero is too strong a word. It took far too long for him to tell anyone what happened and he hasn't once called out Trump for being a traitor or trying to overthrow our democracy. During the Republican debates this year he agreed he'd endorse the Republican candidate regardless of who it was, including Trump.

    Pence could have been a hero but he's tried too hard to stay in the middle and not offend the MAGAts when we've really needed the truth.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Watch how many people not named Trump go down for this.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    Well, this makes it even more terrifying that this guy is running for office again.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    what will he get up to next

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Ah, another great example of projection.

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  • [–] [B] 12 points 2 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The emails and recordings also indicate that a top Trump campaign lawyer was part of 11th-hour discussions about delivering the fake elector certificates to Pence, potentially undercutting his testimony to the House select committee that investigated January 6 that he had passed off responsibility and didn’t want to put the former vice president in a difficult spot.

    CNN has obtained audio of Chesebro’s recent interview with Michigan investigators, and exclusively reported earlier this month that he also told them about a December 2020 Oval Office meeting where he briefed Trump about the fake electors plan and how it ties into January 6.

    Chesebro also discussed the episode with Wisconsin investigators last week when he sat for an interview with the attorney general’s office as part of a separate state probe into the fake electors plot, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

    The emails show that Brown and the Wisconsin GOP official were instructed to meet Chesebro at the Trump International Hotel in downtown Washington to hand off the fake elector certificates.

    The details from Chesebro put a finer point on how members of Congress, including a sitting US senator, were involved in making sure the electoral certificates for Trump ended up in Pence’s hands.

    The January 6 committee first revealed last year Johnson’s involvement in trying unsuccessfully to deliver the fake elector certificates to Pence, who announced on the morning of the joint session that it would be unconstitutional to do what Trump wanted and unilaterally overturn the election results.


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