▲ 5 ▼ Revenue from Chicago speed cameras more than doubles after 6-10 mph change: data (abc7chicago.com) submitted 3 years ago by lntl@lemmy.sdf.org to c/chicago@midwest.social 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments Hope they reduce the speed limit in the city to 25 and use the revenue to support the CTA, bicycle stuff, and better pedestrian crossings.
[–] blegh@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Accidents go up, revenue doubles, but this is totally about keeping people safe 🙄 permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's about raising revenue, would be a bonus to reduce crashes. Hopefully all this revenue goes to getting people out of motor vehicles and onto other modes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There was a study several years back that concluded that speed and stoplight cameras actually increase crashes. Drivers often see them at the last moment and slam on the breaks then get rear ended or cause cars to swerve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Don't drive faster than the speed limit? Shouldn't have to slam if your driving the limit. Also drivers have seat belts, crumple zones and air bags. Pedestrians do not. The danger presented to a pedestrian is much greater than a driver whose rear ended at a red light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) I'd argue that changing speed limits without actually changing the design of the roads will not improve safety significantly. There is a great video from Not Just Bikes on the subject: https://youtu.be/bglWCuCMSWc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's about raising revenue, would be a bonus to reduce crashes. Hopefully all this revenue goes to getting people out of motor vehicles and onto other modes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There was a study several years back that concluded that speed and stoplight cameras actually increase crashes. Drivers often see them at the last moment and slam on the breaks then get rear ended or cause cars to swerve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Don't drive faster than the speed limit? Shouldn't have to slam if your driving the limit. Also drivers have seat belts, crumple zones and air bags. Pedestrians do not. The danger presented to a pedestrian is much greater than a driver whose rear ended at a red light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) I'd argue that changing speed limits without actually changing the design of the roads will not improve safety significantly. There is a great video from Not Just Bikes on the subject: https://youtu.be/bglWCuCMSWc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There was a study several years back that concluded that speed and stoplight cameras actually increase crashes. Drivers often see them at the last moment and slam on the breaks then get rear ended or cause cars to swerve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Don't drive faster than the speed limit? Shouldn't have to slam if your driving the limit. Also drivers have seat belts, crumple zones and air bags. Pedestrians do not. The danger presented to a pedestrian is much greater than a driver whose rear ended at a red light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) I'd argue that changing speed limits without actually changing the design of the roads will not improve safety significantly. There is a great video from Not Just Bikes on the subject: https://youtu.be/bglWCuCMSWc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Don't drive faster than the speed limit? Shouldn't have to slam if your driving the limit. Also drivers have seat belts, crumple zones and air bags. Pedestrians do not. The danger presented to a pedestrian is much greater than a driver whose rear ended at a red light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) I'd argue that changing speed limits without actually changing the design of the roads will not improve safety significantly. There is a great video from Not Just Bikes on the subject: https://youtu.be/bglWCuCMSWc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) I'd argue that changing speed limits without actually changing the design of the roads will not improve safety significantly. There is a great video from Not Just Bikes on the subject: https://youtu.be/bglWCuCMSWc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think more speed cameras and a lower limit would make a noticable difference. It's also fast to implement. With that said, a longer term goal should be to redesign roads to calm traffic more naturally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingStrafeIV@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think the issue with introducing speed cameras is that it's hard to convince folks it's about safety and not just a cash grab. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org [S] 2 points 3 years ago Agreed. Would be good to just decribe it that way from the beginning, like tolled express lanes on the highway. permalink fedilink source parent
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