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[–] 189 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Wait til all these projects crash, burn, and get liquidated. Gonna be an amazing secondary market for brand new, unused bulk hardware.

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  • [–] 114 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    But you won't be able to afford it because the market crash means you lose your job.

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  • [–] 109 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I think people don't realise that if AI fails, it's pretty much guaranteed to collapse the US economy.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Meh, not really a full collapse. Just like 75% of it and a huuuuge recession. Or maybe a "Tiny Depression"? Basically, 10 years to recover. Which is where we're going anyway, with or without AI.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Yes, of course

    Except, i doubt anyone will be doing much with a 32 code Xenon CPU Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs

    And the cuda only fanless and outputless GPU will also be kinda useless, especially because they all need a special setup to force feed air through the entire rack to not overheat

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    I mean it’s 64/128/256 cores for home/pro/workstation so not really. People buying aftermarket server parts that want windows can probably figure out how to type irm https://get.activated.win/ | iex if they don’t want to pay for it anyways lol.

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    [–] 100 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Free market totally regulating itself like we’ve always been told.

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    [–] 77 points 5 months ago*

    I declare all resources mine purchased with a fancy loan. Now that all resources are mine, they are all worth 100,000 times more then before. Dont worry, if you cant afford to pay 100,000x more you can rent some if my stuff! Also now that I own everything, I'm To Big To Fail and will need a bailout when I cant pay my fancy loan.

    This is the healthiest, most efficient economy possible. To desire an alternative way to live our lives is now added to the DSM and will trigger involuntary institutionalization in a re-education camp.

    Aliens visit earth and you want to know why? To study our highly advanced economic system of course!

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  • [–] 68 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    When Trump threatened tariffs I went ahead and bought 50 TB of storage. With my then expansion it would easily last me until the end of Trump's turn and maybe a decade if I rationed.

    Turns out that was one of my best calls of judgements to date, just not for the reason I thought.

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  • [–] 66 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    They could garner good will by setting aside a % of their stock to sell to red-blooded people at a lower price..

    If someone walks into a grocery store before a storm and wants to buy 10 pallets of water, the store tells them to fuck off.

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  • [–] 55 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    3 months ago, watching ram prices skyrocketing, anticipating this exact scenario would happen, i bought 5 10tb drives.

    best decision i've made in a while.

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    [–] 55 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm afraid that a lot of the infrastructure will be heavily catered towards DoD computing resources. This means after the components hit their lifecycle, they aren't released to the used markets on ebay, instead they are shredded and rendered electronic waste.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    All of those GPUs will be irrelevent in 24 months, and almost all of them are useless to consumers.

    Its by design, its intentional.

    They want you hooked to their cloud teat.

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  • [–] 52 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    I guess my combined 12TB across five drives ranging in age from 13 to six years old will have to suffice. The only reason I'd need to buy a new drive is if a couple of my current drives die. Which does happen on occasion, of course.

    Also, fuck AI, and the assholes who made it, and everyone who currently, personally profits off it. This bubble popping will be the catalyst to take down the entire world economy. MMW.

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    [–] 48 points 5 months ago

    I'm so fucking over this bullshit.

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  • [–] 48 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Can't wait for the bubble to pop and the used SAS HDD market to overflow with cheap hardware. Same with RAM.

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    [–] 40 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Bullshit. I call 100% bullshit.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Wdym? Do you believe the manufacturers would try to congincr you they're out of stock to create scarcity and increace prices?!? Do you jnow how silly that idea is?! \s

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    Those datacenters are real. AI companies aren't using their money to build empty buildings. They're buying enormous amounts of computer hardware off the market to fill them.

    https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2025/09/18/inside-the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-datacenter/

    Today in Wisconsin we introduced Fairwater, our newest US AI datacenter, the largest and most sophisticated AI factory we’ve built yet. In addition to our Fairwater datacenter in Wisconsin, we also have multiple identical Fairwater datacenters under construction in other locations across the US.

    These AI datacenters are significant capital projects, representing tens of billions of dollars of investments and hundreds of thousands of cutting-edge AI chips, and will seamlessly connect with our global Microsoft Cloud of over 400 datacenters in 70 regions around the world. Through innovation that can enable us to link these AI datacenters in a distributed network, we multiply the efficiency and compute in an exponential way to further democratize access to AI services globally.

    An AI datacenter is a unique, purpose-built facility designed specifically for AI training as well as running large-scale artificial intelligence models and applications. Microsoft’s AI datacenters power OpenAI, Microsoft AI, our Copilot capabilities and many more leading AI workloads.

    The new Fairwater AI datacenter in Wisconsin stands as a remarkable feat of engineering, covering 315 acres and housing three massive buildings with a combined 1.2 million square feet under roofs. Constructing this facility required 46.6 miles of deep foundation piles, 26.5 million pounds of structural steel, 120 miles of medium-voltage underground cable and 72.6 miles of mechanical piping.

    Unlike typical cloud datacenters, which are optimized to run many smaller, independent workloads such as hosting websites, email or business applications, this datacenter is built to work as one massive AI supercomputer using a single flat networking interconnecting hundreds of thousands of the latest NVIDIA GPUs. In fact, it will deliver 10X the performance of the world’s fastest supercomputer today, enabling AI training and inference workloads at a level never before seen.

    Hard drives haven't been impacted nearly much as memory, which is the real bottleneck, but when just one AI company, OpenAI, rolls up and buys 40% of global memory production capacity's output, it'd be extremely unlikely that we wouldn't see memory shortages for at least a while, since it takes years to build new production capacity. And then you have other AI companies who want memory. And purchases of memory from companies who are, as a one-off, extending their PC upgrade cycle, due to the current shortage who will also be competing for supply. If you have less supply relative to demand of a product, price goes up to the new point where the available amount of memory people are willing to buy at that new price point matches what's actually available. Everyone else gets priced out. And it won't be until either demand drops (which is what people talking about a 'bubble popping' are thinking might occur, if the AI-infrastructure-building effort stops sooner than expected), or enough new production capacity comes online to provide enough supply, that that'll change. Memory manufacturers are building new factories and expanding existing ones, and we've had articles about that. But it takes years to do that.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    The end model will be the 70s Arthur Clarke prediction. Just a dumb terminal with no processing capabilities at home, hooked to a mainframe (privately owned of course) which you'll have to use your all your daily needs.

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    [–] 28 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    SSDs, microSD cards, and now HDDs? They're really pushing it.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    I just have bouth 12TB WD off their site last month. Checked right now - Sales Inquiry instead of Add to cart. Rip...

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    Yeah... but the slop!

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    glad i kept all the ones pulled from previous ssd upgrades and ewaste that went through here. i have several i have yet to reuse.

    the shit-tier shingled ones i got a couple years ago to store media files had been relatively stable for years on price at ~ 100-110usd. they're now 170+

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