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[–] 154 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

This shit really grinds my gears. There's absolutely no need for this product. Normal vape is like $20, you're not saving on anything. In EU the manufacturers are obligated to recover used units (they have to setup boxes where you can drop them and handle recycling) but obviously you see them on the ground all the time. This should be banned with the speed of light but EC thinks the current regulations are enough. Fucking infuriating.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was in Italy recently, and I could ONLY buy single use. I fucking hated it as it died in two days making me throw out an otherwise fine device - just because there's no charging port.

    Now I have one lasting for almost half a year, and that's only the taste that dissappears - not the battery becoming bad.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    People are lazy and don't want to maintain a vape, which does require some basic maintenance/cleaning.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Never heard about it. My GF vapes and the vape is simply a battery with a charger. The liquid container is exchangeable. You refill it and when it runs out you change it. There's no maintenance. And even if it were true what do I care? We're supposed to contaminate the environment with batteries because some people are inconvenienced by their addiction? As I said, this product is not needed and should be banned.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Disposable e-cigarettes were a direct and immediate response to pod based vapes getting banned. Use to be, you would buy a device and just buy juice pods that were disposable. It still wasn't great for waste, but that policy was a clear step in the wrong direction.

    They saved children from using Juuls, just to fill the landfills with lithium batteries.

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    [–] 99 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    of course they are. it's why I always encourage people not to buy them. they're awful for the environment, they're wasteful and they are lower quality than you'd get with most standard rechargeable e-cigarette kits.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (35 children)

    I don't vape, but I can't imagine they're cheaper than re-usable vaping devices in the long run either.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    oh my goodness yes. I couldn't imagine buying a disposable every time I ran out.

    that would possibly be just as expensive as smoking regular cigarettes.

    I just use a little pod system that has replaceable coil heads. it was maybe 60 total because I bought two batteries. but I've not needed a replacement battery for my personal vape yet. Just have been replacing (or reusing) my coil heads.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    A few of us electronics hobbyists have been collecting them (when found discarded on the street) to harvest the battery for re-use in other projects.

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    Yes they're nasty, but I pick them up with a dog poo bag and clean them before cracking them open to get the battery.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I guess that's the silver lining, free batteries for anyone willing to deal with a dirty object.

    They're also a prime starting supply for lithium battery recycling plants so they can get things figured out before they have to deal with car packs at volume.

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    [–] 54 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    That reminds me of this monstrosity https://www.walmart.com/ip/Neutrogena-Light-Therapy-Acne-Treatment-Face-Mask-1-ct/168984043

    You have to buy new "activators" every 30 uses as a way of increasing profits... You know rather than just letting users replace the batteries.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This seems easy to hack. Just dig into it and hook it up to a wall wort with the applicable resistor, then sell the monstrosity on eBay for 2x the cost.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I can imagine the company suing

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Oh wow it's as of e-cigs is just like cigarettes, but besides cancer and toxic chemicals, they also found a way to add more waste.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    I gave up arguing with people like you a long time ago, but I still want you to know actively telling people they're just as bad as cigarettes will keep people on cigarettes, which are 4000x worse than vaping. Your misguided views are extremely harmful.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I used to have roommates who vaped from that exact type of single-use device shown in the thumbnail diagram. They asked me to re-charge it, which I did, disassemble it, connect it to my Li-ion charger and it worked again. Apparently it didn't taste good because it was nearly out of juice, but that was when I found out these were perfectly reusable 3.7V batteries in a disposable product.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Isn't there a difference between rechargable and single-use-batteries? I was always under the Impression you should under no circumstances try to recharge single use batteries or they would explode?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    These are rechargeable lithium ion batteries. The same standard 18650 that has powered laptops, EVs, and power banks.

    They're packaged inside a single use product, but the battery is rechargeable.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    You'd need quite a number of alkaline batteries to get the necessary watts to drive a vape. Lithium cells aren't just rechargable they are also good at releasing lots of energy in a short amount of time.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Meanwhile, I’m forced to use shitty paper straws because plastic straws are banned. And yet THIS SHIT is somehow legal??

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Popularity among 18 year olds of > 50%. Christ. A significant chunk of those will become long term users.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I keep telling you all smokers are jokers

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Every aspect of vaping is wasteful and stupid.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is this what post-scarcity is going to be like?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well yeah. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a single-cycle battery for a low-power application.

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