β² 221 βΌ Sometimes less is more (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by bali10050@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] db2@sopuli.xyz 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Windows is doing stuff behind that splash screen too though permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] CameronDev@programming.dev 66 points 3 years ago (2 children) And arch does the exact same thing as Ubuntu :/ not sure what they are trying to say with this one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] RockyBass@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process permalink fedilink source parent [+] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mine just kills the power. Faster than manually unplugging the pc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CameronDev@programming.dev 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you configure it that way? I'm fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent [β] freeman@lemmy.pub 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is. Just never says whatβs hung. Frankly Itβs more like Windows - βshut down please. No itβs fine, Iβll wait. Indefinately is fineβ Linux β shut down please. You have 30 seconds or Iβll shut you down myselfβ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 3 years ago If my pc doesn't shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it's just affraid of me permalink fedilink source parent
[β] CameronDev@programming.dev 66 points 3 years ago (2 children) And arch does the exact same thing as Ubuntu :/ not sure what they are trying to say with this one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] RockyBass@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process permalink fedilink source parent [+] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mine just kills the power. Faster than manually unplugging the pc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CameronDev@programming.dev 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you configure it that way? I'm fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] RockyBass@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mine just kills the power. Faster than manually unplugging the pc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] CameronDev@programming.dev 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you configure it that way? I'm fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] CameronDev@programming.dev 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you configure it that way? I'm fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MinusPi@pawb.social 37 points 3 years ago It's not. A normal Arch install shuts down the exact same way as Ubuntu. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago Chaotic mofo π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] freeman@lemmy.pub 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) It is. Just never says whatβs hung. Frankly Itβs more like Windows - βshut down please. No itβs fine, Iβll wait. Indefinately is fineβ Linux β shut down please. You have 30 seconds or Iβll shut you down myselfβ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 3 years ago If my pc doesn't shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it's just affraid of me permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bali10050@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 3 years ago If my pc doesn't shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it's just affraid of me permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mortrek@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're forgetting the 10 minutes of mandatory Windows updates. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] u202307011927@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago* Only ten?? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] YonatanAvhar@programming.dev 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) A stop job is running for Simple Desktop Display Manager permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] dorumon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12. permalink fedilink source parent [β] majlitech@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So real permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dorumon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] flossdaily@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember going from MS-DOS to Windows and being really annoyed that I couldn't see the loading log. Same with Android phones in the beginning when they were still the scrappy underdog. I wanted to see machinery at work! permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] janus2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 years ago I would rather watch console output I don't understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] janus2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 years ago I would rather watch console output I don't understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mvirts@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wait you guys don't sudo echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SteveTech@programming.dev 33 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think you'd have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. Iβd used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child) What does tee do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 3 years ago It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GuyNoIRQ@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger π«£ permalink fedilink source parent [β] mvirts@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SteveTech@programming.dev 33 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think you'd have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. Iβd used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child) What does tee do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 3 years ago It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GuyNoIRQ@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger π«£ permalink fedilink source parent [β] mvirts@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. Iβd used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child) What does tee do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 3 years ago It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child) What does tee do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 3 years ago It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 3 years ago It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GuyNoIRQ@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger π«£ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mvirts@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot π permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't get it, shutting down looks like the Ubuntu one to me. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] sorrowl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) There's a kernel option to disable the text and it's on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu. Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I've always used GRUB and the text hasn't appeared for me until I've removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I'm remembering wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Tranus@programming.dev 7 points 3 years ago I'm not sure that's right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn't change any kernel options. Also, I've never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago it's on by default on Arch I don't think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don't include the "quiet" parameter. permalink fedilink source parent [β] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago It's not on by default. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] sorrowl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) There's a kernel option to disable the text and it's on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu. Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I've always used GRUB and the text hasn't appeared for me until I've removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I'm remembering wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Tranus@programming.dev 7 points 3 years ago I'm not sure that's right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn't change any kernel options. Also, I've never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago it's on by default on Arch I don't think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don't include the "quiet" parameter. permalink fedilink source parent [β] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago It's not on by default. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Tranus@programming.dev 7 points 3 years ago I'm not sure that's right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn't change any kernel options. Also, I've never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago it's on by default on Arch I don't think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don't include the "quiet" parameter. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago It's not on by default. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I get stuck on a black screen about every 10 or so reboots/shutdowns permalink fedilink source
[β] ninsix@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Correction: first image: Windows update second image: Arch Linux third image: Void Linux permalink fedilink source
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