The CIA has assessed Ukraine was not targeting a residence used by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a recent drone attack in the north of his country, according to US officials, undercutting an assertion the Russian leader had made to President Donald Trump in a Monday phone call.

The CIA’s director John Ratcliffe briefed Trump on the assessment Wednesday, the officials said.

Sources said Ratcliffe later briefed Trump that the CIA did not believe it was true. And on Wednesday, Trump appeared to have adopted a more skeptical posture toward posting, posting a link to a New York Post editorial on Truth Social with the headline, “Putin ‘attack’ bluster shows Russia is the one standing in the way of peace.” The Post’s editorial board noted it was “rich that Putin, who has waged a brutal war for nearly four years, believes that any violence in his vicinity merits special outrage” and asserted that “Any attack on Putin is more than justified.”

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[–] 85 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

So what if they targeted him? He's a war criminal, a legitimate target.

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  • [–] 48 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    It matters if future security guarantees are conditional on Ukraine not attacking Russia. If Russia can claim they were attacked without any fact checking now, they might do the same in the future when it matters more. Showing Russia that their claims are not automatically believed is positioning for the future.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    In countries where the military is aggressively attacking non-combatants in other countries, their war criminal leaders are the most legitimate targets imaginable.

    Life isn't exactly like chess, in that in life, it's not always enough to eliminate the king. But, if you keep eliminating king after king until somebody reasonable assumes control, it seems like the least bloody way to end conflict.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    I don't know of any historical precedent where assassinating the leader of a nation-state, and their successors, has actually happened and accomplished anything, unless it was backed by much wider use of force, such as an invasion.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Soldiers are killed on the battlefield. Kings are ransomed.

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  • [–] 43 points 7 months ago

    Regardless, you can count on Trump to repeat whatever Putin tells him to say.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't care if Ukraine deployed the fucking Hammer of Dawn onto all of Putin's properties and every Russian government building.

    Russia is the aggressor and Putin is a fascist tyrant. The Russian state must be liquidated and Putin should be either executed or sentenced to life by the Hague.

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    [–] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    But what if it was?

    Russia would quite happily kill zelenski given any chance and when peace does come, with Putin left in power, I guarantee you that he'll try to assassinate zelenski at the first possible moment

    Sorry, but not sorry, Putin is a legitimate target and if killed might end this war (not to mention make the world a little better even)

    Let them kill Putin, I only see upsides. This has nothing to do with him being Russian or whatever, this is him being a megalomaniac dictator who loves murdering people all the fucking time. How many people have been assassinated by now in Russia? How many outside Russia? Putin is a fucking menace to anyone, he needs to go

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I think the issue was that Putin wasn't there at the time. Only his daughter (i think) was, or possibly some other close member of his family.

    Apart from that, I agree that Putin is a perfectly valid target, commander in chief and all that.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I mean honestly doesn't really matter. If you're in a state of war then all military targets are accessible. The leader of the country you're fighting with is certainly a military target. Also Putin's a dumbass and really should fucking die.

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    [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    I don't get it. It's war. Ukraine can attack anybody.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    No shit. If Ukraine were going to do, they'd still be trying to dig putins corpse out of a pile of rubble

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Russians are lying? Who would have guessed?

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    If only the POTUS would wait to hear from his intelligence officials before making public comments based on the word of an evil, lying, psychopathic dictator...

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    And if they were, so what?

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, I think they really should target Putin. I'd love that actually.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The Russians were LYING? I don't know what to say, I really thought higher of them.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Source: the CIA

    lol, reassess your beliefs

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Eh Trump will call the CIA fags and say Putin's far more trustworthy

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    It would be entirely acceptable that the country that a war criminal invaded targets said war criminal. But why would the rest of the world listen to the war criminal's lies regardless?

    I guess war criminals stick together.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    And who cares if they did?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Why would it matter that they did?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    5 people fired at the CIA in 10.... 9...

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Well, next story will be Trump firing senior CIA officials in retaliation for undermining Trump's parroting of Putin's lies.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    My assumption is that since magically every single drone without fail was shot down and they masterfully saved the mansion from this devastating attack is that... Russia sent the drones themselves at the mansion so they could shoot them down and blame Ukraine for attacking "civilian" targets, because Russia would never attack civvies.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I wish they would

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    obviously

    it makes no strategic sense to attack one of his many fun-houses

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    At this point I’m surprised when Putin is telling the truth. He lies so much it’s just easier to assume he’s lying and wait to see if there’s actually any evidence for what he’s saying.

    I predicted that this story about an attack on his residence was a lie. Putin does not want peace. Every time they get closer to an agreement he pulls back. He knows that the peace will lead to him getting Gaddafi’d.

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