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Michigan teen sentenced to life for school shooting that killed four (www.theguardian.com)

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Ethan Crumbley apologized before the sentencing for the 2021 high school shooting as parents still in jail on related charges

A judge sentenced a Michigan teenager to life in prison on Friday for killing four students and terrorizing others at Oxford high school in 2021, after listening to hours of gripping anguish from parents and wounded survivors.

Judge Kwame Rowe rejected pleas from defense lawyers for a shorter sentence and ensured that Ethan Crumbley, 17, will not get an opportunity for parole.

Moments before learning his fate, the teen apologized and appeared to agree with his victims that the stiffest punishment was appropriate.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sad part is I don't even remember this particular shooting.

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[–] Okkai@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Same, I had to read up on it again.

Also, this was the first time parents were charged, as they purchased the gun for him.

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

There have been so many, too many.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The really sad thing for me is that I honestly didn't bother looking it up until you said that and I realized that I really should. There have been so, so many.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Fuck his parents. They had ample signs that he needed mental help. Instead of doing that, they bought him a gun. Now that he has the bare minimum of mental health services, he is regretful.

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[+] chitak166@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mental help can only go so far. Some people are beyond help and will treat any program with derision.

Try attending any program for troubled kids and you'll see what I mean.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

In order for us to find out if someone's actually beyond help or not, we should probably try to help them first. That never happened. We can't just assume people can't be helped if we never tried.

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[–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It's almost laughable that you say that in a thread where someone who didn't get help and shot up a school is showing remorse once they got help. What is your point exactly?

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[+] chitak166@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

What is your point exactly?

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[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

That even if some people are beyond help, there is no evidence that this person is.

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[+] chitak166@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I totally agree, but I asked him.

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[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I answered for them, because it’s quite obvious what their intent was.

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[+] chitak166@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago

Oh, I just thought he could speak for himself.

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[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

The shooter kid parents are fucking retarded. He legit had drawn a picture of gun, and said crazy shit, AND asked for help on it, but yet they didn't help at all. These group of people do not represent Michigan citizens

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[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago*

They were Trump voters, so that's inherent. They seemed enthusiastic about their son's interest in guns because it's right-wing.

But America makes guns available to shitty parents and rarely requires them to be properly secured from children, no matter how many red flags that child shows.

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