It's ok when multi billion dollar insurance companies do it when they decide which med they're going to pay for.

Tables didn't turn.

That back then, as everything they say now, is pure projection of things they did or plan to do.

And then again I seriously have to ask why nobody is looking into New York Trump properties that have a pizza place or other food joint in it, because there's children being sextrafficed in its basement.

There have ALWAYS been death panels. There are death panels RIGHT NOW.

They're occupied by insurance corporations balancing the profit from your premiums and the cost of your treatment. Is it cheaper to let someone die? Can we save the life so they will continue to pay premiums? Can we deny treatment without a media circus that makes us look bad? If there IS a media circus, will they die soon enough that everybody forgets?

I would rather take corporate profit out of the equation.

Every accusation is a confession. Every single one.

Anytime someone says death panels I have a compulsive need to post this:

Frame Canada: Wendell Potter spent decades scaring Americans. About Canada. He worked for the health insurance industry, and he knew that if Americans understood Canadian-style health care, they might.... like it. So he helped deploy an industry playbook for protecting the health insurance agency. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925354134/frame-canada

That was what Roe was actually about, the right to medical privacy and patient doctor sovereignty

I said it in another post but these are the actual Death Panels Sarah Palin 'fabricated' (since hers was a huge lie). The government is actually standing between a person who needs care and their doctor.

"its gods will"...

I often use pets as an example. We have no problem ending the life of an animal to prevent suffering. But we are unwilling to do the same with fellow humans.

I don't really agree with the abusive relationship analogy. Things only change if there are people there who want it to change. While I understand and sympathise with the desire to leave, I have the utmost respect for those who choose to stay and try to make/ be the change needed.

This was my initial reaction as well, but now I'm not so sure. Somebody has to be the public example, and fight this broken system. This has gotten a large amount of national media exposure, and that is ultimately what mobilizes voters. She also seems willing to suffer for her convictions, which is more than most people can say.

While I get the sentiment, remember this is part of Republican’s grand plan. If they can make things so bad that liberals largely all concentrate in the likes of CA, NY, MA, IL, OR, WA, CT, RI, and VT, they can guarantee themselves permanent control of the Senate and a massive leg up on the presidency. They get to effectively gerrymander America.

They have already done this in the likes of Ohio and Florida. These former swing states are now solidly Red.

Republicans are worried about Texas, though. Republicans cannot take the White House without Texas. But an influx of people and changing demographics are pushing Texas toward purple territory. So they are doing everything to make the state hostile to liberals.

She is also trying to rally Texans to her side, and if she started saying “this state sucks” she would win less sympathy.

Most of the people who are being harmed cannot leave. They are too poor to do so.

Really just gives the game to the side that's for abortion with no restrictions, now they can just point to this and rub it in that any restrictions are inevitably going to be used as grounds for total restriction.

More of a warning, but few people were paying attention.

Now, now, let's be reasonable. They want to get the ones you don't know, too.

Her husband could say she cheated and point directly to the place in the bible where it says abortion is allowed.

Illinois instead. We actually have programs here to support people from out of state like this woman. In Ohio the legislature is trying to undo the will of the people.

in their right mind

I imagine that's part of it