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[–] 113 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Oh wow, I've been meaning to look up the comment I wrote last time this was posted. And here's a great opportunity to do so! Time to make yet another attempt...

All right, either:

  • try to decide what kind of therapist is needed (difficult)
  • figure out what kind of therapy/therapists are covered by insurance (time-consuming and stressful, sometimes impossible)
  • provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
  • look through a list of relevant therapists nearby (usually easy)
  • try to identify one that you might relate to or at least be able to deal with (very difficult, sometimes impossible)
  • call them up one at a time to see if they're really accepting new patients (time-consuming and stressful)
  • try to find a regular time that works in your schedule for the new therapist and for other obligations (difficult)
  • again provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
  • go meet with the therapist. try to get along with them because if you don't it's your fault and you have to start all over (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)
  • do all this while dealing with whatever problem you need therapy for (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)

Or:

I know the wording's a meme, but the hell with whoever made the original post.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago

    Ironically you need therapy in order to go to therapy. If someone has issues with overthinking, anxiety about interacting with people, stress/anger issues, depression that makes them unmotivated of course it's going to be hard to go to a stranger they're expected to be their most vulnerable with.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    Seriously. I looked into it awhile back for something. My insurance's page was complete garbage. Their provider network is completely useless. Every therapist on there either isn't actually taking new patients, doesn't accept the insurance, or links to a dead site.

    You should be able to sue your insurance company $100 for every ghost listing they have in their provider networks.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    I met my partner 18 years ago. She started therapy regularly after our first five years together. She started to see some patterns in her behaviour, especially toward me, that she wanted to work on. Since then, she has decided she wants to become a therapist.

    On the other hand, my journey started when I tried to access counselling 25 years ago. My GP tried to put me on an antidepressant immediately. I said no. Since meeting my partner and her starting her therapeutic journey, she has tried for a long time to get me into seeing a therapist. It took almost 15 years, but I started about a month ago.

    Now, this first therapist has not been mind-blowing in any way. No breakthroughs, no revelations. Really, I don't think we're vibing. But, still, being able to say aloud some of the things that I hide from everyone else is, in and of itself, therapeutic.

    The list, above, were my stumbling blocks, too. They still are. Add to the list that I'm an underemployed, visible minority, a father-of-two in a high-stress career, and that I refuse to "adjust [blithely] to a profoundly sick society." I'd rather continue to feel my isolation and my detachment than walk into Walmart whistling and smiling at my good fortune.

    All this to say (TL;DR) therapy comes from your own commitment to honest self-examination. Guided, surely, but at least attempted. It won't be found in a pill, potion, or portent. I hope to find a therapist who can challenge me to do better.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I have a completely unrelated question but is the US the only developed country where without health insurance you get no medical care at all?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    We can get medical care without insurance, but it's rock bottom. People go to the ER when their kid is mildly ill because the ER has to see them.

    We're about to lose our Obamacare insurance because the Republicans fucked us over. I get one doctor appointment next week, won't get any follow up care.

    BTW, I'm unemployed but my wife works for the largest credit union on the planet, a "great job" people say around here. She gets no insurance, PTO, nada. Been there over a year, excelling on every metric, still not a "full" employee.

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    [–] 61 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    “Just get therapy? Why don’t I strap on my therapy helmet, and squeeze down into a therapy cannon, AND FIRE OFF INTO THERAPYLAND, WHERE THERAPISTS GROW ON THERAPIES?!!!”

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Me: "Can I get a referral to a therapist?"

    GP: "Uh huh... so, I'm going to need you to take a drug test."

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The medical system has us so whipped.

    I just reached out to a therapist office. Referrals? Insane if you actually needed to do that.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Every medical treatment has to go through my GP, or else my insurance won't pay for it. If I had the money, I could just pay a therapist on my own, and then pay out of pocket for any meds the prescribe.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not to mention it's (usually) expensive

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Got it for free, it comes down to "you don't look depressed".

    No shit, I thought you would help!

    So they told her I look depressed. I was not depressed, just literaly grieving.

    Got some perspective on things, was still on my own.

    Guess what: you need an actual neurologist to help treat your brain disorder, not someone to tell you the obvious.

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    “Let’s see, 500 grams quicksilver, 225 grams mercury, 20 grams ground cinnabar, and 40 grams fresh mashed castor beans. This depression potion better work!”

    (Mercury is difficult to vomit out in large quantities because it’s quite heavy. No backsies on this potion)

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Quicksilver is the same as mercury though

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    People in these memes always talking about therapy as if one simply goes there and like it works in the first place

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    [–] 24 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Lol everyone says therapy

    Can therapy make the ICE Agents go away?

    Can therapy change the fact that my original home country has a bunch of authoritarian "communist" thugs in government? The thugs that never wanted me to be born.

    (apologies for the rant)

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    A key component of dialectal behavior therapy is focusing your sense of injustice in ways that allow you to enact the most change while coming to peace with the things you can't. I started working on a sub about skills building but did get discouraged for a bit by low engagement. The wiki is pretty fully fleshed out though: !DIYMentalHealth@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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    [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    Well, did it work?

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Aah yes, therapy, the instant cure-all for brain issues. How foolish of me to think that therapy was only talking through your problems and getting professional advice on how to cope better with the crushing reality that we're all just wage slave servants of the 1%.

    What a fool I was.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The just go to therapy shit is more or less the same as "have you tried yoga". I have gone to therapy but therapy isn't some magic cure-all nor will it help with material conditions being shit. I have autism and probably C-PTSD, therapy ain't gonna help anymore for the simple fact that my problems are materiall in nature since Society is shit and it's hard for me to even find a job let alone one that won't push me towards a meltdown.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I have a job and it's a struggle to find reasons to give any fucks anymore. I used to be paid "enough" and according to inflation calculators, I'm making nearly the exact same amount (in terms of buying power) as I did in 2013; but my expenses are definitely higher.

    This isn't a competition but if I can't progress in my career at a pace that even rivals inflation, then what the fuck am I even supposed to do?

    My responsibilities have increased, but my buying power is ludicrously the same. It's infuriating.

    You're not alone.

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    studying Paraclesus, translating 1600s alchemical texts and distilling potions is the therapy.

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    [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Jokes aside this channel is sick af

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  • Studying all that is cheaper than therapy. Trust me, if I could afford the financial commitment I'd go again.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think that when we are attacking mental health issues, we need to think of it like the swiss cheese model of security in IT, except that we are on offense instead of defense.

    Everything needs to be on the table. Mental health affects how it feels to exist, which is pretty damn important when it comes to quality of life and finding some fulfillment, comfort, happiness, etc.

    There is usually not a single thing that "cures" somebody. And if there is such a single thing that works so wonderfully, it certainly does not work that well for the vast majority of people.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Therapy really doesnt help. For some people it can be amazing, but it just won't work for everyone and that is ok.

    For me personally, I'm just too different from how the therapists wanted me to be (I know this sounds weird, I will explain). They (plural, I've seen multiple) would try to convince me I can and do experience things that "are normal human feelings that everyone experiences", and didn't seem to be able to understand the things I was telling them I actually experience. They could not understand that I simply do not think in any conventional manner and do not have the same thoughts other people do. And I am not saying "Oh I think differently I am such an intellectual, infinitely superior to mere mortals". There are a lot of things my brain cannot do at all, I will never be able to drive a car, and can't follow cooking recipies very well. They all had the same mindset, that somewhere in my brain the things they were looking for existed. I am lucky that I never had any serious mental health issues, I only wanted to go to ensure that I wouldn't have an issue in the future, since I am more likely to experience them, due to being significantly disabled

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    "Jesus and mental health

    are for those who can help themselves.

    What good is that when you live in hell

    on earth?"

    Barenaked Ladies - War on drugs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFMRVa5Kuy4

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Being an alchemist grants you immortality

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Hey, nice, I've been falling asleep to some of this guy's videos lately.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    extra humorous if alchemy is only taken as a literal proto-chemistry, disregarding its symbolic roots as proto-psychology (i.e.a type of self-work therapy)

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