Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont submitted the legislation, named the Inclusive Democracy Act, on Tuesday which would guarantee the right to vote in federal elections for all citizens regardless of their criminal record.

In a statement, Pressley said the legislation was necessary due to policies and court rulings that “continue to disenfranchise voters from all walks of life — including by gutting the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering, cuts to early voting, and more.” Welch called the bill necessary due to “antiquated state felony disenfranchisement laws.”

In late 2022, approximately 4.6 million people were unable to vote due to a felony conviction, according to a study by the Sentencing Project, a nonpartisan research group. The same study found that Black and Hispanic citizens are disproportionately likely to be disenfranchised due to felony

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[–] 63 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Convicted of drug crime? Should never lose right to vote.

Convicted of violent crime? Should regain right to vote upon release.

Convicted of trying to overturn an election? Never get to vote again.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    They should all be able to vote. From prison, too. The punishment never needs to be to take their voting rights away. If they commit fraud, stop them from committing fraud again.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think if you're overthrowing the government, you're basically tapping out of the democracy. That's literally the only crime I could see not being allowed to vote. I also think they should be removed from the country they tried to destroy. But then I have no idea how would they remain detained in that situation.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I'd prefer compulsory voting from all able people of voting age. Prisons should have full in-person voting locations with private voting booths. Mail-in ballots should be a freely available option for all.

    It doesn't guarantee good results, but I feel it is the most straightforward way to rid ourselves of voter suppression campaigns, which I think are fundamentally evil.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I disagree with this approach without even touching the morality aspect.

    There should be no way to lose your voting rights once you are of age and a citizen of the US for the very simple reason of limiting the bureaucratic overhead of elections. If every citizen above the age of 18 can vote, you can just completely remove the ridiculous notion of "voter registration".

    Just register everyone based on their legal address (which the government should have anyway because taxes). Just like a real democracy.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    What third world shit is that? You can't vote if you've been convicted of a felony? That's some medieval thinking right there, god the US is a hopeless barbaric mess only thinly disguised as a democracy.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If the person has paid by doing their sentence and are in good faith trying to integrate into society, they should be able to vote.

    Except traitors and or domestic terrorists, they can go fuck themselves.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Honestly even those should be able to vote. If there are enough to actually win an election, then the area in question has a problem regardless, and if not, then the only actually consequencential effect of forbidding it would be that unscrupulous political groups could try and declare their enemies traitorous to try to disenfranchise them.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No taxation without representation.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Democracy is a social contract. If you break the terms of the contract by attempting to overthrow democracy, you lose the rights afforded by that contract, like voting.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The problem with that reasoning is that the vast majority of felonies aren't trying to overthrow a democracy. Punishments should fit the crime.

    A DUI shouldn't stop you from voting, nor should a conviction for being a prostitute. Burglary shouldn't either. The punishments for each of those felonies should be different and determined case by case. None of them have anything to do with voting.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My friend got busted for an ounce of weed when he was 18 and got a felony (intent to distribute...as if the pothead wasn't just gonna smoke it all himself).

    He's very politically-conscious and always pushing people to vote. I wasn't thinking and asked if he wanted to go with me and man...I've never seen a smile turn to a frown so fast.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    What rational argument is there for citizens to lose their right to vote?

    Say you lose your right to vote over possession of drugs. Why? You shouldn't you have representation?

    While in prison you become slave labor. For profit prisons get money for housing and feeding you. They get money from the contracted work you do. They double and triple dip profits. There's all kinds of under the table deals being done on your back. But why did you lose your right to vote? It all goes back to controlling certain groups of the population. That's where it started, that's where it still is. Sure, restrict gun ownership for felons, that's a constitutional right that has long needed overhaul for so many reasons, but the right to vote, why??

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Problem is, that would be for federal crimes ionly. But, the biggest problem is that states write the rules for all elections, not the feds

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    In late 2022, approximately 4.6 million people were unable to vote due to a felony conviction

    Holy shit America! WTF??? That's over 2% of the adult population!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Good. It is unlikely that there would be enough criminals, guilty of any crime actually worthy of being such, to successfully legalize that crime even if they wanted to (and for any reasonable crime most probably wouldn't even want such, even theives don't want to be stolen from). As such, there isn't any particular risk in letting felons vote. However, not letting them do so allows laws to be weaponized to disenfranchise people

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm fine with incarcerated felons not voting. But they should have a pathway to voting when they're released. Maybe immediately upon release, or after probation. Something.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Let them vote in prison too!

    They actually have the time to get politically informed.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Esp. because if you have enough people in prison that the results of elections would regularly depend on their votes your main problem is not prisoners voting or not, its having too many prisoners.

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