How would I make copies of keys that either say "Do not duplicate", are of that general type with like a locksmith business etched into it, or is some fancier "Best" Cormax brand?

I'm really close to getting into stable housing, been roughing it for a few years, and do custodial to make ends meet. There are a few keys that if I had copies of them would let me use a shower, toilet, A/C and a microwave for a few months then destroy the keys when I move in to a place.

Any ideas?

Sorry to ask, thank you for any direction or guidance you might be able to provide.

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[–] 8 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

Unless you go to a super professional locksmith shop nobody cares. I have had these kinds of keys copied multiple times and prepared an elaborate backstory about being sent by my boss and they didn't even ask either time. They didn't even look or notice.

If they do ask and you don't want to lie just go to the next hardware store over. They can't keep your keys or hold you or anything for trying to get a key made, at worst they will say no.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Do you know if this includes the 'Best Cormax' type keys?

    It's the one that would provide the shower access, so hoping to find a solution for it.

    Thank you for taking the time to comment.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    that system works through restricted keyblanks, so they specifically aren't handing out the blanks to ANY locksmith, you can normally only get a true copy from the Best factory directly.

    I'm sure it's possible but it would require an unethical professional who knows what they are doing or a very lucky and patient DIY job to make a frankenkey I think.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    With a small metal file and a stack of key blanks, you could make your own copies of whatever you want.

    I should add not ANY key you want. Higher security locks are going to require cuts that you may not be able to do with a generic key blank, but those are more likely to be found on corporate doors, than cheap "landlord special" locks.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'd just try and get it copied. As long as you don't act like you're up to something weird, I'd doubt anybody'd question it. I've had friends get such keys copied for similar reasons and had no troubles. It's not like they know what the keys are for.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago

    Have you ever gotten a 'Best Cormax' key duplicated?

    I can search for locksmiths or maybe even self-service kiosks (from another comment here), but I'm not sure about that more secure Cormax key, which gives the shower access.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    minute key? there's one in most walmarts i've been to

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Can I copy “Do Not Duplicate,” school building, high-security, public institution or other restricted keys?

    No, this machine cannot be used for duplicating any keys marked “Do Not Duplicate”. See TERMS OF USE for more details.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I used one for this. The machine doesn't know.

    This is just a legal CYA.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Huh, I'd figure they'd scan for that or something.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you very much. That's really good to know.

    Though, I'm unsure of a few things.

    So, the machine physically CAN copy this type of key, you're just not supposed to?

    And, additionally, I wonder how it copies a key type if it doesn't have the key template in it's inventory.

    Unless it either has those templates and just tells people to use the honor system, or it somehow copies keys in a way which somewhat disregards the specifics of templates?

    Also, unless the manner in which it copies keys is capable of duplicating various security features, this wouldn't work for say the more secure 'Best Cormax' key (which would give the shower access)?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    It’s definitely going to depend on what type of key you have. The ones at my local supermarket are very simple and practically can only copy house keys. I’ve definitely copied rental apartment keys with it though that have a “do not copy” text engraved.

    Postbox keys and automotive keys, I don’t know of any machine that copies them in my area. Not because they detect and refuse, but because it needs to be the correct key size.

    If it actually has the right size key available, I’ve yet to come across a machine that would actually inspect the key to see if it was labeled to refuse copying.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago

    Like @three@lemmy.zip mentioned, the service states you can't duplicate those types of keys. But on their website, after this statement, they link to their Terms of Service, which states

    and you will not use the Service or the Minute Key Machine to duplicate any third party’s keys (including without limitation, protected keys such as “Do Not Duplicate,” “Do Not Copy,” public school, public university, or public institution keys)"

    unless you are authorized in writing by such third party to duplicate such keys."

    So, the machine physically CAN copy this type of key, you're just not supposed to?

    And, additionally, I wonder how it copies a key type if it doesn't have the key template in it's inventory.

    Unless it either has those templates and just tells people to use the honor system, or it somehow copies keys in a way which somewhat disregards the specifics of templates?

    Also, unless the manner in which it copies keys is capable of duplicating various security features, this wouldn't work for say the more secure 'Best Cormax' key (which would give the shower access)?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Fus7qbRZM

    The Replicant lets you imprint a key in clay, and then later cast a copy. The risk is that it breaks off in the lock and you have to fish it out or be prepared to explain that you were not authorized.

    https://covertinstruments.com/products/replicant

    $70 USD but maybe you could sell it when you're done?

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