Nvidia does not 'hate' Linux, Nvidia simply never thinks about Linux. They need to keep secrets so people can't buy the cheap card and with a little programming turn it into the expensive card.
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Nvidia doesn't hate linux, it just don't care and the linux community hates nvidia
amd didn't care a few years ago, but their drivers are open, so the community can fix it even if the company don't care(now amd care a lot more, so it's better) nvidia is a closed source crap, and it don't give a fuck too
nvidia has always been hostile to open source, as far back as i can remember.
back when nvidia bought 3dfx they took down the source code for the open 3dfx drivers within days, if not on the same day. i remember because i had just gotten myself a sweet voodoo 5 some weeks before that, and the great linux support was the reason i chose it... of course the driver code survived elsewhere, but it told me all i needed to know about that company.
also: linus' rant wasn't just a fun stunt, it was necessary to get nvidia to properly cooperate with the open source community if they want to keep making money running linux on their hardware.
Linux is their bread and butter when it comes to servers and machine learning, but that's a specialized environment and they don't really care about general desktop use on arbitrary distros. They care about big businesses with big support contracts. Nobody's running Wayland on their supercomputer clusters.
I cannot wait until architecture-agnostic ML libraries are dominant and I can kiss CUDA goodbye for good. I swear, 90% of my tech problems over the past 5 years have boiled down to "Nvidia sucks". I've changed distros three times hoping it would make things easier, and it never really does; it just creates exciting new problems to play whack-a-mole with. I currently have Ubuntu LTS working, and I'm hoping I never need to breathe on it again.
That said, there's honestly some grass-is-greener syndrome going on here, because you know what sucks almost as much as using Nvidia on Linux? Using Nvidia on Windows.
Companies love to use open source software to reduce their development costs. They hate to contribute back.
They love to publish drivers that worked with like 1 release of X 5 years ago when the card came out and never update them.
Except when they update them and it breaks X.
I'm hoping the recent explosion of AI/ML stuff will create more incentives for them to have proper support for desktop Linux, but I'm not counting on it.
I've seen this photo a bunch of times. Who is this guy? And why is high flipping the bird?
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Linus Torvalds, creator of the linux kernel, flips the bird to nvidia and they deserve it
It's the creator of the linux kernel. In the video he quote says "fuck you nvidia" lol
Some nerd with an attitude problem and a severe lack of social graces.
535 drivers have been working fine for me in Ubuntu and Manjaro.
Takes about 8 hrs to setup properly. But once you do set your Nvidia card with Linux, you just never update your OS and cry to sleep every night.
I call them "novideo" because the nvidia GPU in a PC someone gave me was the bane of my existence on Linux. I ended up buying a Radeon for it because I got so tired of having no video after security updates. Nvidia seems to hate everybody except Windows for some reason. Even Apple ditched them long before they ditched Intel.
But yet, it seems like the majority of Linux users have nvidia anyway.
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>But yet, it seems like the majority of Linux users have nvidia anyway.
Probably becouse it's more popular among windows users, so when most people switch to linux from Windows, they use the hardware they already had, which more often than not includes an nvidia GPU
Switched to high powered AMD GPUs years ago... No regrets. Awesome graphics, better support, and a better price point usually.
If AMD was able to come to the bright side, so can Nvidia. There's still hope, ye faithful!
I’m gonna be that person… I rarely, if ever have issues with nvidia on Linux. Used several 30xx series cards for gaming over the last couple of years and it’s been a great experience.
Is it my distro (Void)?. is it because I’m happy staying on X11? Is it just luck? Interested to hear people’s gripes
Are we just going to post this meme forever and ever here?
This meme will never die unless Intel and AMD surpasses NVIDIA on everything
Yes. Whenever it's fitting to say "fuck Nvidia!" So likely forever and ever and always.
You could just as yourself: has anything changed or is the situation still the same?
It's not that they hate it, they just don't care at all.
Also, you should use your distro's prepackaged driver - not the Nvidia installer.
What i don't get is how nvidia stock is exploding when using their hardware for AI is a nightmare on Linux. How are companies doing this? Are they just offering enterprise support to ibsiders or something?
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