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[–] 111 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control. Most are who we already knew: Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah the entire US intelligence arm, really any public intelligence period, etc.

    I vehemently disagree with those folks you mentioned but gotta say, not wanting to get involved in another war in the Middle East built on outright lies doesn’t make them Kremlin controlled. It’s other things.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm just saying that it's amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who've long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:

    • You've got Tulsi Gabbard literally echoing Kremlin propaganda verbatim on Western imperialism (yet not making a peep about Russia's invasion of Ukraine)
    • You've got Tucker Carlson flying to Moscow, simping for Putin, trying to show how great Russia is in contrast to the USA.
    • You've got Rand Paul flying to Moscow hand-delivering letters on behalf of Trump.

    There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    What are they going to do? Record 3 hour video of p*tin narrating imaginary history?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Russia's basically already on two fronts and just lost a huge proportion of its strategic bombers.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    “Very negatively” as opposed to what? Mild negativity?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You have to think at this point the White House is just like two armed camps. The people that work for Putin and the people who work for Netanyahu. Few years ago I'd say they were sharing an uneasy truce, maybe even a burgeoning friendship, but now? God I hope they tear themselves apart.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    trump really forgot the only reason he has a razor thin congressional majority, is Russia blackmailing Congress members into supporting him

    Putin can make them all stop supporting trump just as easily.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Oh no are they going to lose another million soldiers about it and crash their economy even harder?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    translation from Russian: they will keep bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine, but now it's going to be a "reaction" just because they were provoked

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hate war.

    But if daddy Vladdy is mad…

    I still hate war.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Killing Khamenei would be a bad move. That's how martyrs are made, and they are already dialed up to 11 in Iran, so there is no reason to pour even more oil in the fire.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Putin has already requested that Chuck Schumer write a strongly worded letter on his behalf.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don't want America to go to war with Iran.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    America just did go to war with Iran.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Eh, they're still doing the announced tit for tat. Like after soleimani got schwacked, they lobbed missiles at a US airbase and that was the end of it. It's saving face by doing something in response, but also not actually escalating by not inflicting any significant damages.

    So, despite how ridiculous it looks calling for peace after an exchange of missiles, that's probably what will happen. The only confounding factor is Israel and that may be the catalyst to sparking more conflict.

    The fact that Trump is under the thumb of Israel, who want to obliterate Iran, and putin, who doesn't, is entertaining to say the least. It's a complete crap shoot how this ends up overall.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Khamenei is weak. Maybe he wasn’t in the beginning, but he has been for the past decade or so. Killing him is risky for US and Israel as that may potentially give Iran another stronger leader. Russia doesn’t want change either as Khamenei is known and manageable.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Meh. I don't see much steering room for their course. It isn't Russia by the way, it's Putin and his regime.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As long as they control the government, military, police and other stuff putin and his regime are russia. If russians don't like that they can make their own Maidan.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    That abstraction layer is correct, I think.

    The thing with abstraction layers is: they are made to simplify a context. This makes it easier to understand and to see correlations and processes. It also hides details of the picture.

    As far as I know there are people in Russia who work for their own goals. Those bridges don't collapse themselves and it takes someone to derail a train or sabotage a helicopter or provide intelligence about movements.

    Yes. Most people just eat the propaganda or at least don't act up to evade repression (if they would care enough to do so otherwise). That's normal human behavior, it's no Russian specialty. Can you think of a current critical situation which would need immediate wide-spread attention, but people tend to ignore it?

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    "Russia is very afraid", Peskov said. "We cannot afford to lose an already weakened partner in a region where Russia is losing more and more influence" he proceeded.

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