Traditionally, retiring entails leaving the workforce permanently. However, experts found that the very definition of retirement is also changing between generations.

About 41% of Gen Z and 44% of millennials — those who are currently between 27 and 42 years old — are significantly more likely to want to do some form of paid work during retirement.

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This increasing preference for a lifelong income, could perhaps make the act of “retiring” obsolete.

Although younger workers don’t intend to stop working, there is still an effort to beef up their retirement savings.

It's ok! Don't ever retire! Just work until you die, preferably not at work, where we'd have to deal with the removal of your corpse.

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[+] 281 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Lol even the summary says what they really mean

    3 in 4 of Gen Z would rather have a better quality of life than have extra money in their banks, a report by Intuit shows.

    “3/4 of gen z know that the world is probably gonna be pretty fucked up when they reach retirement age, so they’re doing their best to live an ok life before that happens”

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    Literally all of the climate change stuff they said was going to happen 50 years from now is happening now. So yeah I'm going to be 70 years old fighting for scraps with a billion refugees in lower Canada. Why the fuck shouldn't I make sure I have fun now? The odds of getting enough money to get out of that situation are vanishingly small so fuck it.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So sick if seeing these articles framing "millennials/gen z killed xyz" as a preference or a want.

    Remember when we killed the diamond wedding ring industry? We can't pay our rent ffs.

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    [–] 155 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Maybe, just maybe, Gen-Z is not saving as much for the future because (1) they have less money to save due to inflation, and (2) they don’t foresee a viable future. These reasons can also explain the parenthood rate dropping lately.

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Main reason I never had kids was I was screwed over by just about everything financially. Student loans, housing/“financial crisis”, medical system, deck stacked against self-employment, predatory credit cards. Great job, USA. Then the same cunts who did that bemoan low birth rates and cry about immigrants.

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    [–] 105 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    are currently between 27 and 42 years old — are significantly more likely to want to do some form of paid work during retirement.

    Want is not the right word there, and it completely changes the message. This is a fucking hit job, trying to convince people that company executives stealing pension plans, and a failed society that abandons its elderly, is something young people desire.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As a person over 40 years old, let me be clear: I never want to work.

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    [–] 87 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    what the fuck is up with all these pansy-ass terms suits keep coming up with? "quiet quitting" and now "soft saving"?

    fuck this marshmallow flavoured cyanide bullshit

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It's a way to turn people off of what they really mean.

    "Quiet quitting" is just doing your job. Trying to make it seem like breaking your back to help someone profit is the minimum to do unless you want to be branded a quitter.

    "Soft saving" is apparently the requirement of working til your dead because no one gets paid enough to...hard save...I guess.

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    [–] 71 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    did some idiot confuse "worried we will have to work until death" with "wanting to work until death"?

    get fucked capitalist class. the minute I can afford not to work I will stop. the problem is you guys fucked the system so hard that it seems that point is so far away, or not attainable at all.

    I feel so sorry for the retired boomers on good pensions in their big houses with nothing better to do than wish they were working again

    end rant

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    This honestly sounds like propaganda trying to convince people this is a thing.

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    [–] 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)
    1. open mouth
    2. insert rich people
    3. chew vigorously
    4. swallow
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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    One thing worth noting that's tangentially related: the reason Social Security faces solvency concerns is not that they couldn't anticipate the Boomers' retirement, but because under Boomer management, wages (which are the basis for Social Security's funding) have been suppressed, particularly on the low end of the wage scale.

    They saw the Boomers coming a mile away. What they didn't see coming was that they'd flatline the minimum wage and kill off unions

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    I have no idea where they pull these statistics from. It's increasingly sad that we should get more time off as labour gets automated and cheaper, not less.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    A soft lifestyle? And to think this whole time I thought it was just called "being poor and underpaid"

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I don't get the privilege of owning a home, why should I get to retire? 🤷‍♀️

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    From the article...

    According to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, Americans are saving less in 2023. The personal saving rate — the portion of disposable income one sets aside for savings — was significantly lower at 3.9% in August, compared to the 8.51% average in the past decade, according to data from Trading Economics which goes as far back as 1959.

    Additionally, inflation makes it harder for people to cover their expenses or save, Koehler said.

    A report by Blackrock shows that in 2023, only 53% of workers believe they are on track to retire with the lifestyle they want. A lack of retirement income, worries over market volatility and high inflation were some of the reasons cited for a lack of confidence about retirement among workers.

    It really just is time for companies to pay more money to their employees, to share the wealth better, back like how we used to.

    It's wild to think that in the past only one person would have to work and a couple would be able to afford a house and raise a family. I can't see how that can be done in today's world.

    Someone dig up FDR and ask him the redo the 'New Deal'.

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Wow what a boomer article. Most young people just don't expect the current systems and institutions to last that long. Millenials have lived through several financial crises and economic downturns with no chance for improvement in sight. It just gets worse until the generation responsible for it dies out.

    So I'd much rather live in the now making memories of adventures and good times with friends & family as long as i'm able to, than have a bit more money in the bank that won't be worth shit when i'm old. Peace of mind is great and all but the future is an illusion you can never fully prepare for.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why should people push for traditional pensions? I don't want to be stuck at a crappy job just because leaving would reset my retirement clock. It's the same reason healthcare shouldn't be attached to the employer either.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    If my calculations are correct, my cheeseburger and pizza diet will kill me around the time I want to stop working. That's my retirement.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    This increasing preference for a lifelong income

    These crazy kids with their preferences for avocado toast and Tik Tok and never being able to stop working!

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    You know, I am Gen X and honestly have never thought I'd be able to retire. I worked when pregnant until the day I had the baby, every time.

    I now just try to keep work sustainable, take my PTO, don't give them everything now for some potential future return.

    No, I don't need paid employment to have a full and happy life. There is plenty to do. But it's not the worst life either.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    There’s about a 0.1% chance Social Security will be around when I retire, and the increasing costs of living have almost certainly cut into my ability to retire at a reasonable age.

    I’m probably going to work till the day I die, it’ll just be contingent on if I work for myself or not.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    lolz gen X forgotten again.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'm 40 and I've always "known" that there would be no retirement for "us".

    Consequentially, as the eternally wise Homer Simpson once stated; "my lifestyle is my retirement plan".

    I genuinely hope never to reach age 70 or over. I've known lots of old people in my life and the ONLY TWO who were somewhat happy were my maternal grandparents. And even they will soon have to deal with losing one another since they're so old.

    I don't intend to go through all that. I'll live what I can, as long as I can, and as soon as I can't anymore, it's exit left.

    I doubt I'll be the only one.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    A belief in the future is actually a foundational requirement of capitalism.

    What we have here is neo-fudalism, where the points are made up and the people believe in nothing.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Want? No. Need.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It always got me how much it costs to be able to work.

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