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[–] grte@lemmy.ca [S] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I tend to think it was a misstep on Smith's part to make the report they funded so overwhelmingly positive for them. Even those who would be on the winning side of it have to be thinking it's too good to be true. Polling seems to back that up.

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[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Even if it did, it'll be handed over to O&G before the end of their term anyway.

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[–] BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Conservatives have a tendency to destroy shit rather than conserve don't they? Maybe they should go by a different name. Fucking parasites.

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[–] snooggums@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago

Regressives

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[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

I like Ayn Rand's 'Second Handers', I enjoy heaps of irony.

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[–] tadpolegalaxy@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How the heck is this even supposed to work with cross province migration? I migrated from BC having paid the full amount into the CPP for many years and now Alberta gets to pay claim to it? What if I move after they seperate, two meager pensions? What a mess.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Quebec has had its own pension plan for a long time. I expect should we go through with this, it'd be a similar mechanism to however they handle it.

Still a terrible idea though, because the UCP literally can not do math, or successfully manage finances.

But, the idea isn't unique, Quebec already did it... And the fact that the UCP isn't pointing that out as justification to me speaks volumes about the political hatred for Quebec by the Albertan right wing.

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[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

From what I read Quebec didn't leave though. They just never joined

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

I guess you could maybe just let all albertans who have retired take from the cpp going forward from the start date, then everyone after that just contributed to app, but that will take like 45+ years to fully switch over and need to deal with the overlap somehow throughout that time.

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[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago

If you do that so that anyone born after 2004 or whatever only contributes to app it's not gonna be fair to them when the app goes bankrupt

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It works "fine" for QPP, so I assume it would be the same for APP. Out of all the very valid concerns over this plan, inter-provincial migration isn't really one of them.

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[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also worth noting that as a remote employee of QC from SK, I find myself paying into both QPP and CPP now, reducing my expected takehome overall.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah you for sure are only supposed to be paying one. I worked from AB for a QC based company for a few years.

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

AFAIK, it should just be QPP deductions. Either way, your over-contributions should be sorted out at tax time.

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[+] psmgx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yes, it's not like the oil and gas companies are going to give back all that money after Danielle Smith gives it to them. They aren't even paying to clean up their own messes when they've squeezed every possible dollar out of the province and leave.

[–] WhyAreWeHappy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Nope. It all goes to their overpaid executives. Somebody has to pay for their private jets and multiple residences on Kauai.