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[+] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)
  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    The Soviets near completely eradicated the Baltic intelligentsia by killings and exiles into Siberia. Claiming that all those people had it coming for them is certainly a wild take. Most were exiled for simply being slightly richer than their neighbours.

    My wife's grandparents were exiled somewhere near Murmansk, but were returned quite early because grandfather was a millman and Lithuanian SSR was short on those.

    Lithuanians in Siberia

    Close to me there is a place where on one side of the road, Nazis murdered the Jews and on another side, communists murdered Lithuanian intellectuals. The Nazi side had ruthless efficiency. The Soviet side had inhuman brutality.

    Rainiai massacre

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Such a profoundly dense thing to post, it could have only been made up by an American. How can anyone have such compartmentilized view of history is truly beyond me, unless of course they are incredibly ignorant or some kind of Putin’s lapdog,

    It's mostly narcissism with some ignorance.

    I used to hang out in alternative communities. And if you listen to people who promote full communism as a good way to run a society, you realize that their entire proposition hinges on there being no "evil" people. Their mind seems to operate on the idea that their society will be so perfect that there wont be any corrupt people who lie, steal, cheat and try to take advantage of others or if they are they will instantly and always be caught.

    Same thing with anarchists. They love to talk all flowery and nice about their mostly anarchist commune with 10 people. And just dismiss the idea that it wouldn't work with 10 million.

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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Didn't know the Cambodians, Polish, Kalmyks, Kazakhs, Tatars, Ukrainians, Anarchists, Left SRs, Trotskyists and Peasants were all Nazis. Must be fun to live in that world.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Two things are true at once:

    • They did crimes
    • They fought even bigger criminals

    And two things are true at once:

    • Descendants of their innocent victims consider them monsters, and they are correct and valid.
    • Descendants of the even bigger criminals that got "neutralized" hide among the other category, and they are dishonest.
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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The only correct take in capitalism-communism discourse

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, this is the for the Communism-fascism discourse.

    When it comes to Communism-capitalism, my take is that while we are able, correct and valid to pinpoint the crimes of (big-C) Communists, we are steeped in (small-c) capitalist ideology and are completely desensitized to the ongoing systemic crimes of our own system, which are in my opinion graver than anything the (big-C) Communists ever did.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, or they were LGBTQ+.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My mom was just telling me a while ago about how one of her uncles was tortured by the communists after they came to power. Small note: he was a member of the legionnaires, so I can relate to this meme.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    First they came for the grandfathers and I did not speak out, for my grandfather was a Nazi.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (14 children)
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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did Trotsky have grandchildren? Or did the Communists exterminate his entire family line?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I mean you can say that. At the same time I grew up in a communist country where your neighbours were disappeared for whatever reason that authorities saw fit. I saw the oligarchs keep their power under a different name and regular folk stay poor, and get even poorer than before. You American kids love the idea of communism but it don’t work in practice, it requires humans to be selfless, it requires leaders who will reach the top and give up power and money, and spread it to the people below. I don’t think that’s possible with humans, too selfish. Socialism under direct rules and regulations, great. But strong man communism isn’t different than fascism or capitalism to the people at the bottom

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    Thats how its starts, first you tell them there are nazis and you want to liberate them from the nazis. Than you invade theyr countrie. Read about siberian gulags and how many “nazi grandperants” were sent there before boot licking these commies.

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