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[–] 257 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a weird way for me to find out about another shooting

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  • [–] 98 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It wasn't as bad as some (2 dead, 6 injured).

    He originally started with a shotgun but it jammed without firing a shot. He grabbed a pistol from his vehicle and fired into the bystanders.

    Police were on scene quickly (FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars) and shot and wounded the shooter.

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  • [–] 140 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, what a fucked up world we live in that we see a school shooting as “not so bad, all things considered”…

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  • [–] 112 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's only "not so bad" in America.

    'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    There is a really fucked up silver lining to this which is every nation not the USA can point to the USA whenever someone wants to loosen gun regulations. In a twisted way the US might be helping other nations by being such a "good" (bad) example.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    That pistol he grabbed from the vehicle...

    ...was his Mom's old service pistol.

    His Mom was a school resource officer and later deputized into the Leon County Sheriffs.

    https://www.newsweek.com/fsu-shooter-leon-county-deputy-phoenix-jessica-ikner-2061301

    In a news conference hours after the first reports of the active shooting were announced, Leon County Sheriff Walt McNeil identified the suspect.

    "The shooter is 20-year-old Phoenix Ikner ... and he is the son of a Leon County sheriff's deputy," McNeil said.

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    According to Revell during the news conference, Jessica Ikner [the shooter's mother] is a school resource officer in Leon County. The county sheriff's office website lists her as a "middle schools deputy."

    Deputy Ikner was awarded law enforcement employee of the month in March 2024, the sheriff's office posted on Facebook.

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    [The Shooter] was "a long-standing member" of the Leon County Sheriff's Office Youth Advisory Council, McNeil said during the news conference.

    "He has been steep in the Leon County Sheriff's Office Family," McNeil said, adding that it is "not a surprise" that Ikner had access to weapons.

    ...

    (apologies for possibly paywalled link, try internet archive if its blocked for you)

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/04/18/florida-state-university-shooting-what-we-know-about-the-suspect/

    Phoenix Ikner, a 20-year-old son of a sheriff’s deputy whom police accuse of using his mother’s gun, is in police custody after being identified as a suspect in a shooting on Florida State University’s campus Thursday, which killed two people and injured at least six others.

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    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2025/04/18/fsu-shooting-phoenix-ikener-fired-guns-deputy-mother-jessica-ikner/83159241007/

    Jessica Ikner, a beloved Raa Middle School student resource deputy, was the 2023 law enforcement officer of the year with the Leon County Sheriff’s Office.

    She also practiced shooting with her stepson, Phoenix, at a firing range, but “not in an official capacity,” according to LCSO.

    ...

    Yeah so this guy was trained to shoot by his armed-with-a-firearm, middle school guard / county deputy mom, and he then took his mom's service pistol to shoot up his own school/uni.

    I can't find more details on the shotgun, but it could also be the case that that is or was a service weapon as well... but that is barely informed speculation on my part, I just know that a lot of US cops also have a shotgun in their cruiser.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    The headline is using 'was' as a weasel word.

    They know it'll be click bait because it will be read as:

    "The weapon used is a weapon that is the service weapon of a deputy", and not:

    "At one point, in the past, the weapon used was a service weapon but isn't any longer".

    Him using a service weapon implies that there was a lapse of security on his mother's part. That's why it's being mentioned in the way that it is because, if it were true, it would be outrageous.

    The fact that an adult Florida man was able to access privately owned firearms isn't news. But making it seem scandalous by implying that he killed people with a weapon issued as the service weapon of an active duty cop gets clicks.

    The shotgun story is based on first hand accounts that I've heard from the FSU students that I work with. I'm obviously just a random Internet person, so don't believe it until you see other sources.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Local law enforcement was having a training session very close by. That and the fact the shooter was the son of a Sherrif deputy are the reasons you could hear them blowing themselves over their fast response the whole time. Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.

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    [–] 148 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Weird how that keeps happening.

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  • [–] 114 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    And his mom is a police officer.

    And he used one of her unsecured guns.

    In a system where we want to discourage this we need to hold the parents accountable.

    I think a life sentence for each life her son took is fair, for her and her son.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago

    irresponsible gun owning parents, who literally put firearms into the hands of their homicidal children, need to be held accountable for these tragedies.

    dozens of mass shootings in recent years, especially school shootings, were absolutely preventable. if only these fucking lazy stupid ass adults would stop fetishizing guns for 2 seconds, long enough to store their weapons securely like a sane responsible person. or they could, idk, maybe steer their mentally disturbed crotch goblin towards a more pro-social, harmless activity?

    firearm ownership is a responsibility too few take seriously.

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    “He’s just a bad apple”

    “Lone wolf”

    “Let’s talk about mental health”

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    "Okay, what can we do for mental health?"

    "Nothing or genocide/restablish the patriarchy, fuck you lib"

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    "We need Jesus in schools!"

    No joke, I've heard people say that exact thing in response. That taking God out of schools is what started all this, so if there was more prayer in school, we wouldn't have shootings.

    Yeah, because nobody does mass shootings in religious places.

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    [–] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was recently thinking it's says a lot about a culture, where kids shoot up schools regularly, but immigrants getting a terrible treatment never seem to shoot up an ICE office or other government building.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 year ago

    I think both are part of the same culture to be honest, they are just in very different positions both pushed to an extreme situation (the kids shooting up schools and the government officials threating immigrants like crap). Personally I believe you get what you give and this is the result of a society that is getting what it has been giving (or not giving, really). Really sad situation where a lot of people get way less than they deserve (the parents of the killed kids, the children of the deported families etc)

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago*

    People in US culture want to think this is a product of white christian men getting hurt and isolated to the point that the poor innocent souls wander into committing a school shooting.

    The negative mental health is only part of the equation and isn't even critical to it, what IS critical is teaching christian white men that they have the inherent right given who they are to commit violence and nobody else does.

    This is why you see that "incongruity".

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    [–] 58 points 1 year ago

    Curious that this is still happening even though Musk has killed the woke mind virus and these guys have won forever.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago

    And the child of a cop.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Can't wait to hear them say "well he donated $5 to the democratic party 10 eyars ago"

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Young white men are being indoctrinated with 24/7 propaganda telling them they are the real victims

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    [+] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He was one of the "homegrowns". Any bets on him going to CECOT?

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Gonna gloss over this one, just another day in paradise

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    “Homegrown criminal” off to El Salvador with you! Right Donny? Right?!

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He’s probably getting a pardon and an ice position

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    Who could have seen this coming

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Prosecute the parents. They know they raised a shit kid. This is not an accident but a consequence.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hmmm. Maybe if there were less guns around....

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