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EU households should stockpile essential supplies to survive at least 72 hours of crisis, Brussels has proposed, as Russia’s war in Ukraine and a darkening geopolitical landscape prompt the bloc to take new steps to increase its security.

The continuing conflict in Ukraine, the Covid-19 pandemic that brutally exposed a lack of crisis response capabilities and the Trump administration’s adversarial stance towards Europe have forced the continent to rethink its vulnerabilities and increase spending on defence and security.

The new initiative comes as European intelligence agencies warn that Russia could attack an EU member state within three to five years, adding to natural threats including floods and wildfires worsened by climate change and societal risks such as financial crises.

Europe faced increased threats “including the possibility of armed aggression against member states”, the European Commission warned on Wednesday as it published a 30-step plan for its 27 capitals to increase their preparedness for crisis and mitigation measures.

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[–] 96 points 1 year ago (29 children)

I'm from EU and this is way less than my country suggests, which is 2 weeks.

I actually have 2 weeks supplies, but I'm gonna eat baked beans and vegan chocolate and drink coke zero the last few days 😅

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Yeah, 3 days is a joke. Do they expect a war to be over in 3 days?

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s an estimate on how long you need to survive on your own, before the government is able to help.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think that's very optimistic. Looking at how COVID went, I have no faith at all in people's ability to stay calm. The government isn't going to be able to help those in need 3 days in with the masses of idiots around. No way.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, during COVID the idea was still that things should run as normally, with a market economy and stuff. During an actual war, any sensible government would immediately take control of the distribution of food, water, energy and other essentials. Scalpers would be immediately detained, rather than to allow them to run rampant.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    More likely they expect to be able to get support/reinforcement/aid in, within a couple of days.

    It's big enough to be a useful stopgap, but small enough not to accidentally cause a run on the supermarkets. It also makes people think about it more. If they update it to 2 weeks later, people are more likely to have a feel for what they need, and what will keep.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It is not just for war, but disasters in general, imagine a colapse or jamming of internet network or credit card buying or isolation from a flood or erathquake, help and minimum delivery infrastructures may take easily 3 days in effectively reach the people in need, is a reasonable amount to recover from the shock having around in average the minimum to survive in the mean time. Worse problems will be waiting for solution but this could save lives and improve significantly circumstances.

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Just a question for people here who do not have 72 hours of food stored in their homes? Do you go to the supermarket every day? Or do you cook at all? What are you doing on the weekend? What happens when you're sick and can't go shopping?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do you go to the supermarket every day?

    There's 5 food stores <7 minutes away from my apartment,. Why stockpile when you can just walk and pick up fresh food every other day.

    What happens when you're sick and can't go shopping?

    Is that a common occurrence? Just get a friend or family member to shop for you if you're that ill, or order food delivery.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But don't you still have some staple stuff like noodles, rice, frozen or canned foods and so on in your house? Combined with the fact that you might buy food in larger quantities (e.g. not just 1 apple, but 6 or maybe 1kg), i'd also imagine that most people have enough food for 3 days in their house.

    The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.

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  • Rice and onions are just about the only thing I have that last more than a few days. I don't buy frozen food as I'll just buy what I need at the store, 90% of my diet is just bread, eggs, chicken and rice, and 1.4kg of chicken is gone within 2-3 days.

    You could always just lower your caloric intake if food became scarce.

    The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.

    Tap water quality is great in Norway so water is something I never buy unless I forgot to fill up a bottle on a road trip. I don't really know anyone other soda addicts that keep liquid stored at notable quantities.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Might happen at the end of month for me. We go grocery shopping with a car at the beginning of the month, but 31 days are longer than my freezer is big and a backpack can only hold so much. So I respectfully ask Putin not to attack on the 29th.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    72 hours of essential supplies. Do you have 72 hours of:

    • food (cooked, or cookable? see points 2 and 3)
    • stored water (taps out?)
    • stored power generation (powers out?)
    • medicines and first aid (emergency services outages? communications outages?)
    • heat in the coldest months? (see point 3) etc.
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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, here in the Uk our government is making sure we won't have enough money to buy more than two days of food at a time.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, 14 consecutive years of Conservative leadership will do that to the best of nations.

    No doubt the UK has a MASSIVE uphill struggle ahead to bring back a sense of prosperity for its people, but it’s a bit disingenuous to make it sound as though it’s the fault of a Government that’s been in power for less than a year so far.

    It can take mere seconds to destroy something, and multiple times longer than that to fix it.

    In Australia, we are a couple years ahead of the UK (in terms of our first Labor Gov’t following a decade+ of Conservative leadership); things don’t magically get better overnight, but we are at least on the correct path now — here’s hoping we don’t fuck things up by voting the Cons back in later this year 😫

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Thank goodness that wars only last for 3 days exactly.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Hello darkness canned bread, my old friend

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    72 hours? No problem. Always have a big bag of rice on hand and you're done.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I don't enjoy archived links that much, so here is the plan, straight from the EU.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm happy I'm growing my own food.

    Though I don't think much will happen to Ireland.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I read that as 72 days at first and thought something serious was expected soon. Oh, 72 HOURS. Who doesn't have that?

    Also unless you are on the border, how useful is that likely to be? What would the expectation be, only short term supply chain disruption so shops may run out of something in the first few days but after that food supply will adjust to it?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think the preparation is meant for full blown war. It's for disruptions.

    Russia won't be able drive tanks all over Europe any time soon, but they are capable of cutting cables to attack energy distribution, hacking payment methods and other infrastructure dependent on networks.

    Remember the start of Covid? There was plenty of toiletpapir, hand sanitizer and test kits for everyone, but nobody could get it in stores for a long time because everyone wanted it at the same time. It's better if everyone stock up over a longer period of time, so it doesn't crash the supply chain when it is needed.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I could survive 72 hours on the food I have at home at any time, it won't be grand tho and I'll still need electricity to make most of it.

    Once I move I'm planning on having a small stockpile (cause I'll finally have space for it) to last about 2 weeks or so, worst case I just need to eat it and restock it later and best case it saves me a lot of hassle in a crisis.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    72 hours of food is just grocery shopping

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    72 hours, the average length of a special military operation.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    My grandma lived through WWII and rationing. After she died, we were cleaning out her house to find she had hidden cans of food stockpiled everywhere: behind the washing machine, in the pit in her garage, in the corners of her loft, everywhere.

    If rationing ever came back in, she was more than ready for it.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    That has been the recommendation for civil protection for a while already. Not so much because of the risks of war, but e. g. floodings, power outages, storms etc. And most importantly you should stockpile water, because at a power outage, there will be no tap water anymore. That's the most important bit people here seem to forget. So nothing new here, actually.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    72 hours of food is crazy to me. I would be making a trip to the store when down to maybe a week or two.

    Guess Europe really does shop different.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I have half a dozen supermarkets in 10min radius by foot. multiple more if I use a bike/scooter.

    There's really not much use in stocking huge amounts of food at home, especially when you want to cook fresh stuff.

    Non-perishable things like canned and frozen meals is mainly used as a fallback in case of lazyness (ignoring canned stuff for ingredients)

    I go to the supermarket at least once a week. normally 2-3 times

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Given how quickly supermarket shelves emptied at the start of COVID, this is good advice generally for a crisis.

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