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[–] 102 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Here’s the problem: the one with the purple hair wants civil rights and safety, and the one with the red hat wants to punch the one with the purple hair repeatedly. Can’t really compromise like that. Need to fight red hat and billionaire at the same time, which is bullshit.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ok but that's a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren't evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.

    You need to construct a vision of society that allows both to succeed. Everyone is struggling these days and you need to construct a society that values all people.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.

    wow, I guess you should tell them to stop being dicks instead of coming to leftwing spaces and telling us to hug the bullies.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol I'm a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can't push everyone out. You have to find common ground. Our society is breaking. Communism has plenty to offer most MAGA people. They just need to see it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lol I’m a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can’t push everyone out.

    I'm not pushing anyone out; I'm pushing OP (and you) to proselytize to the right wing and MAGA people.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    That's not what they're saying at all. Go look into some of MLKs teachings. Kindness and being gentle, in duality with an aggressive force like Malcom X was at the time, is how we win this fight.

    There are those of us fighting the peaceful fight and those of us fighting the violent fight (Thank you Adjuster).

    Edit: This comment ended up duplicated due to shoddy internet, duplicate is the deleted response.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is impossible for me to both have rights(one sides goal), and not have rights(the other sides goal)

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The point isn't to cede ground and compromise with them. The point is to try to show them that they've been duped about who their enemies are. It might still take some time to deprogram them, but if we could at least get them to put that all on hold and focus on the class issue, maybe we can actually get somewhere instead of spinning in circles.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this meme is dumb and short-sighted and the commenters are right.

    it isnt a culture war conservatives are inciting, it is a war on civil rights.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    In much of the public's eye, it is a culture war. That’s what determined their vote and support.

    The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires.

    Always has been.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The public gets things wrong, that's why it's important to set the record straight rather than serve up pablum.

    "The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires..."

    claiming an absolute regarding complex and differentiated issues is how you know something is pablum.

    The long-term conservative judicial and legislative campaign the meme incorrectly refers to has a lot to do with race and religion, for example.

    "Always has been".

    this is just a line from a short-sighted meme that is often incorrectly used, including here by you. it's a fun phrase that means nothing, it's confetti stuck in your sock.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not a culture war if they make policy based on it. Can't really be shouting from the fence at the migrants being detained, put in camps and deported or the women being denied abortions or the trans people being arrested for having to pee that the culture war is a distraction and if they only looked at it from a class perspective everything would be fine.

    I mean, you can, but after a while it starts to suspiciously just seem like you actually agree with the fascists and the anarchocapitalists on the issues, or at least that you're just as willing to use attackig marginalized scapegoats for your own political gain.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They're enforcing their version of culture, a very white conservative one. "Culture war" doesn't mean completely unserious, the consequences are very real.

    It is a distraction from the root cause, they have people voting against their own self interest to make minorities suffer rather than demand better working and living conditions. It's redirected anger wielded for their gains.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago
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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is why labor unions really started to fail in the 60s and 70s. The union guys valued race far more than class and the powers of unions diminished.

    They have been doing it well before reconstruction. Once upon a time there wasn't that much racism in the US, but after Bacon's rebellion the elites realized that whites and blacks were working together and have since then been pitting them against one another.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They also purged all the communists as a show of good faith to the government (which, uh, didn't work). Those communists were likely more prone to class solidarity as an ideological commitment and also more willing to fight with radical actions like strikes, but instead we were left with opportunistic leadership that just wanted to secure the bag for themselves, and at best the other members of the union, but had no interest in any building any kind of broad coalition or promoting equality on a societal level - that would make them sound like a Red.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Many that fight for civic rights, also fight the class war, protesting for both

    Civil rights are actually a good platform to spread social awareness

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's hypocritical republicans who LOUDLY incite and stoke any of the culture wars you refer to. Anyone with half a brain can see that since at least two decades ago.

    Yet another reason in a very long list as to why both parties are NOT the same. But that ship has sailed, I have lost all faith in the american electorate. Stubbornly ignorant, utterly misguided voters allowed the noisy felons back in, and they will NOT give up power on good faith. All while global warming continues to ramp up. It's too fucking late.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I really don't understand this comment (maybe I need to go to sleep), but I don't see OP referring to any culture war, and I can't say Republican's are the only ones inciting culture wars (they might be inciting the ones I disagree with, but it is a culture war to push for equal rights)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Culture war is class war. Radicalized right wingers are just a weapon.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    They also got you posting the truth on a shitpost sub

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    OPs political views and opinions are apparently shotposting worth

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Well when the red hats are fighting for the oligarchs it's not quite the same is it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Check out the most recent Red flag radio podcast episode with April, a tran activist for Rainbow Rights. They discuss how social justice is connected to economic justice, how it's all tied up in the class earlier against capitalism.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Its not the same. Those dumb MAGA animals are actively on the side of the rich. Don't compare us to those fucking people.

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    It works because you can't squeeze water out of a rock. These meme implies that we can, as if we can recruit them onto our side.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The meme also implies that getting along still keeps you locked in. Yet how else could we achieve a better society.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They both want to distract us, cuz if we actually work together we’d overthrow thfm

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