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[–] 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More like bye-bit, am I right??

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  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They'll just roll back the blockchain. Ethereum is a centrally controlled cryptocurrency, though its fans claim otherwise. It's been rolled back before.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    This is either a person who hasn't followed ETH since 2016 or is intentionally spreading misinformation.

    It HAS been rolled back once, when the blockchain was in its infancy. But to say that it is still "centrally controlled" suggests having no idea what has happened in the 9 years since.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm so glad I have no crypto of any kind. It's the wild west with no savings insurance, so once it's gone, it's gone.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Depends which exchange you're using.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anybody who keeps their money on an exchange any longer than necessary is just asking for trouble. An exchange is like a public toilet. You get in, you shit, and you get the fuck out. You don't hang around in a public toilet.

    Self custody or GTFO.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    How does one get ones hands on a cold wallet?

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    My speculations:

    • "insecure from the start" - as in , the wallet was never that "cold"

    • with that amount of money, it's easy to imagine an "insider threat"

    • the hackers could have gotten lucky and struck right when the company was doing legitimate operations on the wallet

    • but probably it's a towering mountain of incompetence, composed of the elements above and more

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's a common misconception that a "cold wallet" is offline. It's still on the blockchain like any other wallet, it's just the keys that aren't on any network-connected computer.

    It appears that in this case hackers managed to trick Bybit employees into entering the keys into a fake UI that gave the hackers access to them.

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    Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

    And this is the first time I have heard the word "musked" in this context.....

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

    I have no idea. I guess they'll release a lot more info regarding this in the next few days.

    And this is the first time I have heard the word “musked” in this context…

    I think his English isn't good looking at the rest of the message. Might be "masked" instead.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What I don't quite understand is how there is 1.5 billion in a single wallet. Or how are these things structured?

    This article puts their total assets under management at $15.7b, which are held in different cryptocurrencies with ethereum at just above $5b.

    So I am wondering how they have more than 1/6 of their Ethereum in a single wallet or were these multiple that were connected and got compromised through the same vulnerability? How expensive is it to have more individual wallets? Would it not be feasible to have it split in something like $100m chunks? Or any other more moderate size.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Making more wallets would cost nothing more than a few hundred bytes of storage each for the keys. I have no idea why they wouldn't have split their funds into evenly sized wallets of, say, $1M each.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    The money is not gone, is just that someone else has it.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The money of the future ladies and gentlemen.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Seriously, who calls their online banking type site bye bit?

    Having said that, I'll just go ahead and assume their security was barely existent, as per usual. I wonder if their CTO was actually s music teacher too.

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    I gotta get in on this hacking gig. Anyone know if any hacker groups are hiring?

    /s for CSIS

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    [+] -14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    how is $1.5 billion in worth calculated because no way bitcoin tokens are worth more than $20.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You wanted to know how it's calculated.

    That was the supposed amount of ETH that was stolen. 1 ETH is currently around $2800. The value it has is because people are buying ETH for that price. So you take $2800 and multiply it by 400000. Carry the 5, etc. That's $1 120 000 000.

    There was some other stuff stolen too I think. I haven't really looked into it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That someone can just make off with that amount of digital "currency" sure inspires trust in that system, so the $2800 price tag might be a bit optimistic.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well it does show that you really do own your own coins. You have to own something before you can lose it.

    With government created currencies this is not really the case, banks can stop any transactions and even close your account, the government can freeze it if they desire, and all that kind of stuff.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    I'm not sure I understand the question... Do you think the market value of these coins is made up (as in not directly related to demand), and you can't actually go onto an exchange and trade it for actual USD? Because of course you can.

    1 Bitcoin (not a token) is currently worth over $95,000

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