Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at Donald Trump’s accusation that Ukraine started its war with Russia, saying that Trump is trapped in a “disinformation bubble” and adding that his country was not for sale.

He rejected Trump’s claim that Kyiv could have avoided the war and defended U.S. aid.

Referring to U.S. support—$67 billion in weapons and $31.5 billion in budgetary aid—Zelenskyy dismissed demands for $500 billion in minerals as “not a serious conversation.”

Moscow welcomed Trump’s remarks, further fueling concerns about his foreign policy approach.

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[–] 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Zelensky has been very careful not to burn the Trump bridge prematurely, but Trump's Russia misinformation comments seem to have turned the tide.

Trump was just baiting and waiting, and this response unfortunately likely took the bait (though who can blame him, it's all true). So I think this is the turning point and will give Trump an excuse to lash out by revoking aid, and jointly propose a "peace" treaty with Russia that gives Russia substantial parts of Ukraine.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think this only makes a few weeks difference to the withdrawal of US military support. The deal Trump and Russia are putting together should not be thought of as an attempt to end the war, but the creation of a pretense for the withdrawal of support. The terms that will be offered to Ukraine will be completely, and intentionally, unacceptable to Ukraine and Europe. Ukraine will refuse and the US will name it as the justification for walking away.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Saying Trump is trapped in the disinformation bubble is like saying a bee got trapped in the hive.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    Hey, he’s also trapped in American disinformation and misinformation bubbles too. Also, he’s extremely stupid so he’ll never realize he’s wrong and too narcissistic to ever admit he’s wrong, so we’re all screwed.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    He didn't get trapped or tricked. He knows what he is doing, he is a traitor that is caving to blackmail.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is he vulnerable to any possible blackmail at this point? I think it's safe to assume he is just really fond of Putin and his ruling style.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I mean It kinda depends on what Putin has on him. If it's a tape of him molesting Ivanka or Tiffany, or even one of his sons, he'd probably want to keep that hidden forever, even after he attains dictator for life status.

    It's probably one of the few things that could actually take him down.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    That's a weird way to pronounce foreign agent.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    “I don’t like Trump’s flirting with Putin," said 49-year-old Fedir Logvynenko. "I don’t quite understand whether it’s from great intelligence or from complete incompetence."

    Hate to break it to you, but it's pretty obviously the latter.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Is that translated? Or, rather, does Fedir speak English?

    I got a funny feeling that the translators in global media sound a hell of a lot more competent than Trump. And there's a hell of a lot gained in translation.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    Another one of trumps great business deals - failed.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I believe most people who voted for Trump were in a Russian disinformation bubble.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Never forget these maga heads with t-shirts that said: i'd rather be russian than a democrat. They don't give a shit, they want their team to win. It's a sport to them. If you have to inject 15 year olds with testosterone maybe win a college football game, hell yeah, better than losing

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Always has been

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    imo, i feel it is intentional and made to be as neutral as possible so the man baby won't have more reasons to give a fit.

    i wish europe can set their defenses up from this experience.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    He's not in a bubble, he is the bubble

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    He's trapped in a 'fat dumb piece of old shit criminal' bubble also.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Shit I coulda told ya that, man.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Russian disinformation bubble

    Like lemmy.ml?

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    [+] -33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    it's not for sale except for all the public industry he sold for cheap

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are you talking about Yeltsin?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not really fair to criticize privatization of state assets when the country is under attack and running on fumes. It's unfortunately a necessity to keep going. I seriously doubt it would've happened in peace time.

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