Things can be tough, let people enjoy the things they enjoy. It brightens there day as long as there healthy.

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[–] 178 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Good for you that you think that way :). Fuck that show though. I can't stand the unfunnyness and misogyny in it

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  • [–] 121 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Problem is the misogyny (and racism, and queerphobia, and ableism and so on) in it doesn't stop when the show ends, it makes the people watching think it's ok, or worse - funny, normalising it. Hell, even this post is defining it as "healthy", which is so fucked up, because who exactly is that content "healthy" for?

    So while I'm all for letting people enjoy what they enjoy, doing so uncritically, and/or refusing to hear when people tell you that something you enjoy is harmful to others (which misogyny, racism, queerphobia, ableism, and so on normalised in the media are) is when you go from "enjoying" to "supporting" and even "actively contributing", no longer "harmlessly" enjoying something, and I will judge you for that (edit to clarify: we all consume harmful trash entertainment, it's unavoidable, it's about acknowledging that it's harmful trash and not buying in to it, rather than insisting it's "healthy" or "harmless" despite all evidence to the contrary)

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Watch out for the misogyny though. I haven't seen much myself to judge, but this video essay makes a pretty good case. Just be careful.

    https://youtu.be/X3-hOigoxHs

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    [–] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nah, this show is terrible and if you disagree I'm not so sure you deserve happiness.

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    [–] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't define it as safe and happy when it's full of toxic masculinity.

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I know this will sound pretentious as fuck, but as someone who got a physics degree and knows some shit, BBT drives me fucking nuts with its relentless pandering. Nerd culture isn't even nerdy anymore since being a nerd implies being some kind of outcast. When the outcasts become the majority, they're no longer outcast.

    Gimme old Star Trek episodes for comfort TV any day.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    As someone who got a physics degree and knows some shit, the first couple seasons are not too bad. The physics/math jokes are mostly fairly accurate, and those shows happened as nerd culture was getting mainstreamed. The first Avengers movie were several years away. I can't really say whether the series had a part in this mainstreaming, but at the least it was in the Zeitgeist.

    I grew up in the north Italian province. Being a nerd didn't make you an outcast, but definitely an odd one.

    The first couple seasons came out while I was doing my bachelor (i.e. the equivalent of undergrad) and with its caricature of some quirks I could recognize in many of my friends and colleagues, it made me feel at least acknowledged.

    Then it got progressively worse as they kept looking for more and more ways to drag it on, lost those qualities I found positive, and I really gave up not too long after that.

    Edit: I still need to point out that Star Trek TNG is peak comfort TV, together with maybe The West Wing or some Doctor Who.

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago

    As someone who lived with people who fetishized intelligence and used it as an excuse for toxic behavior the show is an uncomfortable reminder of that period in my life. Not just because of the characters themselves but due to the people I knew back then that would watch it

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The problem with BBT was making a stereotype caricature out of being a need or having aspergers, and then assholes get to call you Sheldon cause they think they're funny.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No, the problem is how misogynistic Leonard is but they portray him as an adorkable guy to be loved.

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  • Use a picture of Larry David, a person who created TWO hilarious comedy shows, to promote a garbage sitcom? Nah.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Me then: BBT is trash

    Me now: still trash, like, it was always really bad. You're allowed to like trash. I encourage you to like trash. If you learn to love trash then the world is full of wonders. But we're not gonna pretend it's good out of some sense of politeness.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Boy you could have chosen any other example, hahaha.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    You know a show is trash when a character saying some jargon is somehow a laugh line

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Then watch Parcs and Rec. Or Scrubs. Or even Friands.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    IMO BBT is just nerd mockery dressed up like nerd humor.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As long as you remember that Sheldon is a sociopath and not autistic, it's fine.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    "These aren't real nerds! They make us all look dumb!"

    Other than Sheldon's quirks, I've always felt like the characters were just like my friends and I and this sentiment that permeated Reddit always just felt like people who very much are like Sheldon were the ones taking the most offense at the show.

    Bazinga!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Later seasons really flanderized some aspects of the characters, but I always fondly remember one scene where The Gang is assembling a new TV stand for Penny's apartment and someone questions the airflow it offers. So they immediately start designing a water-cooling system for her TV.

    I know people like that. I am people like that.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your friends are sexist homophobes?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    No, it's still awful.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's still trash, but some people like trash I guess.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    'We do quirky things in a self-awareness vacuum that violate societal norms in a hilarious way that somehow doesn't result in crushing depression and isolation'

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Live and let live man. I don't care what everyone does in their own time, have fun, live your life and be happy.

    Where I have a problem is when someone forces me to do something. You NEED me to watch this show? No. Watch it in your own time.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    ITT: Fuck that thing you like

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    To be fair, I have this attitude regarding those friends who drink, smoke or try to kill themselves with fentanyl.

    This world drives us to terrible, monstrous copes, and better these than fascist pogroms.

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