Four years after the Raspberry Pi 4 shipped, today the Raspberry Pi 5 is launching with a much improved SoC leading to significant performance gains.

The Raspberry Pi 5 is designed to deliver a 2~3x performance improvement over the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 features a quad-core Cortex-A76 processor that clocks up to 2.4GHz, compared to the four Cortex-A72 cores found in the Raspberry Pi 4 that only clocked up to 1.8GHz. The graphics are also much-improved with now having an 800MHz VideoCore VII graphics processor over the VideoCore VI graphics with the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 is capable of driving two 4K @ 60Hz displays and features 4K @ 60 HEVC decode hardware capabilities.

Also interesting with the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it features in-house silicon in the form of the RP1 "southbridge" used for much of the board's I/O capabilities. This southbridge should yield faster USB I/O along with other I/O bandwidth upgrades like a doubling of the peak SD card performance. The Raspberry Pi 5 also features a single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface for improved connectivity.

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[–] 105 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Wow the foundation really hates the idea of putting reliable dependable storage on their device.

Like would it kill you to have an M2 slot?

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Honestly, given the improvement of every other capability in the boards over the years, it's really mad we don't have an m.2 slot as an option. Even if they ended up having to create a slightly more expensive SKU (which they seem to have no issues with given the memory options for the Pi4), I don't think anyone would complain

    Edit: apparently there's gonna be an M.2 HAT, so that's something at least, would prefer an option to have it on the board and the GPIO header available for something else

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The single least reliable part of a raspberry pi is the storage. Always has been.

    I don't even need more professor performance, because the storage performance is the worst part.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The professor really is what sets this device apart from competition

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Likely an issue with the pci express lane not being able to handle nvme and everything else.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    An M.2 makes it really difficult for a kid to pop the card out, plug it into a computer and flash it.
    I think RPI Foundation is still holding onto its education-targeted roots.

    I think the compute models are more targeted at the industrial/commercial side of requirements.
    And any homelab enthusiast would probably be better buying a cheap used/refurbished thin-client

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, I think the Foundation still favours SD cards because they are cheap and easy to use. Which suits the Pi’s original base of education, hobbyists etc.

    Of course that doesn’t stop the market seeing things differently and dropping Pis straight in to production use cases instead of moving up to the Compute modules.

    I think the SD card problems are a little exaggerated too. They may not be the fastest but they are reliable enough if reputable brands are used.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, personally I could do without and if it reduces costs I'm for it. Raspberry pi was always about being cheap.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, this should be higher up. Pi’s have usually been around the $35-40 mark, and this one is going to be $100. My B, B+ came as a kit with power supply, SD card, and a cheapo case for $45. Now you can’t even get just the 3B+ for less than $50. My Pi’s are doing boring, simple work like running my 3D printer, running PiHole and a VPN, or being a print server. None need $100 computers to do the job. I guess as long as earlier Pi versions are still available, NBD.

    $100 is starting to price out of the cheap educational/hobbyist/experimenter range and send people looking elsewhere.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    That’s Compute Module carrier board territory.

    The official Compute Module carrier board has a 1xPCIe slot for an NVMe or SATA adapter, and there are 3rd party carrier boards with a M.2 slot on them.

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    They're gonna prioritise companies again and make it impossible for normal people to get it, right?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think that the rpi4 came out before the supply chain issue caused by Covid.

    Before that, it was easy to get a Rpi. It was an issue getting any kind of electronic parts for any kind of project. You had to secure your supply for your production first before starting a project. It was never seen before.

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What annoys me about all these RPi articles is the praise for improved performance and all the projects you can do with it, etc. But you can't find the damn thing to purchase. It's always out of stock everywhere I look. So much so I have given up on it completely. There are other competitor products with lower price that are fully compatible or I'll just end up using old phone.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Wow, can't wait to not be able to buy one!

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There are many small DIY computers on the market now, not just Raspberry Pi.

    Orange Pi, Banana Pi, Asus Tinkerboard, ..

    Those usually don't have delivery issues.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I haven't followed Raspberry Pi for years - when did they go from $25-35 to $100+?

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    This is great news... for business customers, as they're those are the only channels they'll be available through.

    Well, unless you don't mind spending $200-$400 per unit to scalpers, who magically never seem to run out of stock.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm a little disappointed to not see AV1 decoding mentioned, since Broadcom has had one for years now.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well they clearly don't care about video transcoding since they removed h264.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

    Obviously I got a RPi4 just a couple months ago, after struggling for 2-3 years... Well, crap.

    EDIT: at least the prices didn't seem to have increases significantly over the previous version.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So you're telling me Rpi's can finally emulate N64 games at full speed.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Can we get a usb-c port with data? And more power supply to the ports? I hate having to power hard disks with a separate cable.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    I really wish they would have stuck 32/64GB storage or something like that on it, so the OS could boot without external reliance. Give the Pi0 8GB and it would be perfect.

    I boot my Pi4 and Pi3 from SSD and it’s great but it’s clunky with the SSD and adapter.

    I’m seriously considering a N100/N305 mini pc instead of my Pi.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    So for how much :-D

    I'd take a cheap slow one any day...

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    A cheap slow AVAILABLE one.

    Like seriously, I've had horrible success trying to source Pi3/4 in the past few years and due to their bad availability, they cost so much it often end up opting for something different.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Not bumping the PCIe lanes to 4-8 is disappointing. So is now requiring active cooling, not using USB-C for the USB3 ports, and PoE being unusable without a hat.

    It’s probably time to add a higher end “pro” line to let the “education” line focus on power efficiency, tiny form factors, and low cost.

    Also, did they fire the cop they hired?

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    What I'd like to see is something like an updated and optimised ~pi3-spec device with EMMC or an m.2 sata slot. Yes I know I can put a pi zero2 into a breakout board, but they connect via USB and that severely limits performance.

    I recently decommissioned my pis (2x 3b and 1x 4b) and replaced them all with a single intel n95 based NUC (which cost less than a single pi4 8gb at the time) and I didn't need any real gpio other than some serial ports, but if the right device came along with reliable storage I'd consider moving back to pis.

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