If you resold Taylor Swift Eras Tour tickets, the IRS is watching — A new rule from the IRS is punishing those who resold tickets for more than $600 in profit with a tax penalty::A new rule from the IRS is punishing those who resold tickets for more than $600 in profit with a tax penalty.

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[–] 121 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Somehow I doubt this will affect Ticketmaster, the biggest scalper of all

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    er, by default any profit is taxable for them while as a lemming you get a tax free $600 profit before it impacts you

    but fuck ticketmaster anyway

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  • [–] 84 points 2 years ago

    Fuck scalpers

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  • [+] 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 110 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If you resell tickets for 600$ in profit, you’re not “the people”, you’re a scalper and I have no sympathy for you. This is a good rule.

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  • [+] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it's cheaper than the big fish and the GOP has continuously underfunded the IRS. Their whole 2024 strategy is to make it look like the extra IRS agents from the Inflation Reduction Act are going after small folks instead of the big fish. Without those agents, lawyers, and staff the rich will always win with bigger guns.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is it actually cheaper than the big fish though? You could have four people devote a full year to a single multi millionaire and you'd probably still net more than their annual pay. Hell even if you just matched it it'd be worth.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's super easy to implement, comply, and enforce this. Like almost automated levels of easy. It's significantly more complex and requires tons of resources and expertise to go after the whales as you say. Resources they just don't have. Resources that might be wasted if/when it turns out the taxpayer is fully compliant within reason.

    It's not about double standards, it's purely logistics and resources - at least on the IRS side. Congress is responsible for their funding, or lack thereof, and it doesn't take long to figure out who's responsible for the lack of it. So I'd encourage you to focus your ire on the response political party, not the IRS itself.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    All that happened here is they lowered the reporting threshold to cast a wider net and force people to reported income they otherwise could have just not mentioned. It's not quite like flipping a switch but it's relatively easy to comply with, and relatively easy to enforce. "Fixing taxes" is significantly more complicated, to say the least.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    The IRS doesn't care if you do crime or are exploitative or are morally bad

    They just want their cut

    Edit: grammar

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    let's make the threshold $60 instead of $600

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Do you even know what the IRS is doing here? If an individual makes more than 600 in profit on anything they have to report it and pay taxes. If you lower that to 60 that would just be incredibly annoying for the majority of people to deal with on a daily basis

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    people who resold tickets bad, ticketmaster who fixes prices good! win-win situation ?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    maybe they could go after ticketmaster's near monopoly and constant breakage of agreements with gov. branches? just a thought

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Scalpers are predators, and captive markets like Ticketmaster give them a hunting ground.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Wait, someone paid more than $600 for a fucking concert?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Yes and often times way more than that. I checked prices for a Tool concert at a venue near me a few weeks ago and the section closest to the stage had tickets reselling for thousands of dollars. Obligatory fuck Ticketmaster...

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well as per article yes, but 600$ is the reporting limit. If Ticketmaster, stubhub and so on has a reseller account with sales income of more than 600$ per year, they have to file it to IRS. Whether its single sale or thousands of separate small sales doesn't matter.

    Completely normal tax procedure. Pretty much all big such platforms of various fields stock exchanges, commodity markets etc. have such obligation ledges on them for avoidance of tax evasion.

    Nor as second note is anyone being "punished". Punishing is what happens on breaking law. This is business taxes, you make profits selling stuff, income taxes start applying. Normal cost of doing business in society for the services society provides (national military keeps the Mongol horde from wrecking your business and so on, transport atluthority builds roads to run business trucks on so the music tour entourage can get to the arena, so one can sell tickets to that conce for profit and son on).

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Yeah this is completely normal and not at all anything to flip out about. Honestly I'm surprised the reporting threshold was ever $20k to begin with. The 1099 reporting threshold for contractors has been $600 for over a decade now so I would've assumed the same for scalpers.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I mean, technically there's no new tax or anything here, they're just forcing companies to report the income so people can't get away with not paying their taxes on the profit. Now if only they'd enforce the tax laws on rich people, they'd easily make way more than this whole scheme will make by targeting a single billionaire.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Scalpers are absolutely the worst.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I pay my taxes and you should, too. I have no sympathy in general for people not reporting income from PayPal etc, but I'm struggling to think of a less sympathetic subgroup of tax frauds than ticket scalpers. They're not getting special treatment here, it's any 1099 income via the payment apps, but I really wish that wasn't the case. These crooks should be taxed out of business.

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