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[–] 33 points 3 years ago (5 children)

The constitution is about 19 pages long. Here's a pdf

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Did you read the entire thing?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Yeps. One of my electives at uni was the history of the US constitution law for non-legal majors. I had to take 2 history classes for my degree and I thought it would be an interesting subject. Not only read it also had it read to me by my professor. He was a retired JAG officer and militant ACLU supporter.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I guess we need to know what people consider long. The full document is longer than the Declaration of Independence , which I know a lot better. I can’t remember having to read the Constitution in school, just the preamble and a couple of amendments. This doesn’t excuse my ignorance though. Thanks for providing the whole document.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Reading it and going over the contents is also a part of standard US high school curriculum. It's a graduation requirement. At least, it was when I graduated high school in California in the 90's.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    In my experience, the two things that seem to surprise conservatives I've talked to are: the constitution is less than 20 pages long, it's on my phone, and we could read it together in about 30 min (no takers so far), and that there are living redwood trees in California older than Jesus. I don't know why the second one surprises them so much, but it's one that seems to consistently elicit surprise.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    Old trees are such a treasure. It's a shame that despite their strength they can also be fragile. My house has chestnut floors, easy to find in 1927, but then a blight wipes out 90% of the population. And not to mention us humans but we don't need to constantly talk about that, except to say it should be our goal to help these things grow for millenia.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago*

    Maybe if they made it a podcast chaired by a bald angry man.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    There was a quote attributed to Lao Tzu I saw on tiktok the other day, and I was pretty damn sure it was nowhere in the Tao Te Ching, but I was curious if there was some weird translation out there I wasn't aware of.

    The conversation went EXACTLY like this. Like down to the word.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    If you look into the original sources, it gets confusing pretty quickly. There's a bunch of other sources (e.g. the zhuangzi) that assign quotes to Lao Tzu, but they're probably made up.

    However, Lao Tzu probably didn't write the Tao Te Ching, so 🤷‍♂️.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi

    Basically, by making shit up and saying Lao Tzu said it, tiktok is continuing a long Chinese tradition.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    If only people would respond with respectful "I doubt that, but ok".

    These days, such a response is as scarce as an honest politician.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Ad hominem if it was a debate

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Well, actually the context is unknown at least for me so I supposed it was a debate. If you instead of attacking someone arguments attack the person it is ad hominen

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    How is it ad hominem to ask if they have read the constitution? Here's the video at https://youtu.be/YVDJqipoohc. Watch from the 50 second mark. The question is on topic and asked as a follow up. Why would you assume the worst without even knowing the context?

    Are you . . . confidently incorrect?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I dont want to see a 6m video just to prove or not prove a point. I said IF it was a debate and in a quick look it doesnt look like a debate just an interview

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No need to watch the whole video. Watch from the 50 second mark. Will only take 20 seconds from there.

    Even if this was a debate, how is this ad hominem? This being an interview or a debate has nothing to do with it being ad hominem, does it?

    You can interview someone and say "you are an idiot for giving that answer." Is this fine because it's an interview, not a debate?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    The context that I supposed was that they were debating and then he said that, atacking the people instead of the argument makes it ad hominem but I was wrong, it was not that context

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