This is getting silly now. We’ve agreed for thousands of years that children aren’t responsible for the sins of their fathers. This attempt to resurrect Babylonian era values is absurd. Critical thinking is clearly absent in modern schooling.
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Honest question: Is there any legitimate expectation of them actually paying up?
Probably not, and even then it'd be taxpayer money, which is totally unfair.
Is there precedent for this? What happened in the US for example? Or Belgium? Or Portugal?
Wasn't Belgium one of the countries that had the biggest hand in slave trade? I remember reading they were horrific. Yet, they're barely spoken about in the same sentence.
That’s nothing. You should hear about what the Vikings did. And the Romans. And the Sumerians.
Who gets reparations from them?
There’s a actual difference here in two ways. Firstly racialized transatlantic chattel slavery was a massive break from the slavery that had been practiced before in the form of those three adjectives. But also the European mainland suing Scandinavia for reparations, the entirety of Europe, Middle East, and North Africa suing Italy for reparations, and Iraq and Iran suing Iraq for reparations are materially different from some of the poorest countries in the world suing the royal family of a wealthy nation that still has an empire for reparations.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Earlier this year, the Guardian revealed that direct ancestors of King Charles III and the royal family bought and exploited enslaved people on tobacco plantations in Virginia.
Research by the playwright Desirée Baptiste unearthed a document instructing a ship’s captain to deliver the enslaved Africans to Edward Porteus, a tobacco plantation owner in Virginia, and two other men.
Support for the research was part of Charles’s process of deepening his understanding of “slavery’s enduring impact”, the spokesperson said, which had “continued with vigour and determination” since his accession.
“It is part of our shared history that caused enormous suffering and continues to have a negative impact on Black and ethnically diverse communities today,” the company stated on its website.
“There’s no doubt that those who were making the investment knew that the South Sea Company was trading in enslaved people, and that’s now a source of real shame for us, and for which we apologise,” Gareth Mostyn, chief executive of the Church Commissioners, told BBC radio earlier this year.
Adrian Odle, a lawyer and commission chair, told the Telegraph that British institutions are compromised by their ancestral guilt, saying “every property that the royal family is in possession of has the scent of slavery”.
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The Royal family responded "But we already made reperations to the slave holders!"
Inconvenient truth. Africans captured and sold other Africans to slave traders. The 'white devils' did not sneak into the African interior and steal them away, they waited for them to be brought to the coast. Still an awful practice, but the question has to be asked, "Why not demand reparations from modern day African nations?"
For one, modern day African nations are not a small group of ultra rich white assholes who are still benefitting from the slavery.
It helps when the scope of the action is clear and direct and includes specific people.
Ahh, it's what I thought. It's not about truth and justice, it's about shaking people down for money.
Do you think fining people who have wronged others is 'shaking people down for money'.
Stupid comment. So, using your logic, it would be OK to fine you for something your great great great grandfather did. I'm confident that not a single 'internet couch activist' would accept that.
If I had inherited insane wealthy due to the horrible actions of my ancestors, then losing part of it to repay the victims of that tragedy is perfectly fine. It isn't like I earned it through my actions, and I would expect that if someone stole something from me and gave it to someone else then I should still get it back.
Way to be selfish though, hope it lets you sleep at night.
Very noble of you to state what you would do IF yada yada yada. I call BS.
At least my speculation is helping victims instead of shilling for the fucking royals.
Nah, I couldn't give two shits about the royals. I just don't want to see a ridiculous precedent set.
Why not? Do you think Germany paying restitution long after WWII set a precedent that applies to you?
Do you just fear acknowledging the wrongs of the past?
Fun facts:
We finished paying off our World War 1 reparation debt in 2010.
Although we're going to pay Namibia 1.1 billion, although those are explictely not reparations officially, because we also don't want to set a precedent on the matter.
(and needless to say we're still actively paying for the Holocaust)
If you only go after the people with money, then yes. Then it’s not about justice or morality at all. It’s about money.
Nothing you wrote absolves anyone of their participation in the slave trade, you simply implicated an additional guilty party.
Barbary pirates in North Africa actually came to South West England and took slaves.
Still though, the barbary pirates don't exist as an entity any more, the Royal family unfortunately does.
What a garbage! I'm sorry, but how out of touch can one get?
Not just the wealth overseas they stole, they stole from all of us as well.
Abolish the monarchy, take it all back and pay us and the others their ancestors stole from our wealth and land back.
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