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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Like what?

Often the things that seem mundane actually aren't

Like vaping is just tobacco 2.0.. and we don't need everyone to have easy access to guns (especially not kids). Networks like Facebook are so unmoderated at the moment they should be held to account.

Asbestos and engineered stone? Enough said

And that's mainly everything I can think of that's banned that I can think of...

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Like vaping is just tobacco 2.0

What is this, govern me like a strict old nan?

Is dancing allowed down there as well or is it a gateway to thievery or something?

Oh, I forgot, Lemmy is only lefty and free when they aren't being told what to boycott by someone else. I guess we do have something in common with Trump voters.

Nooo, imposing our will on the public is ok under some circumstances!

FUCKING SHEEP

My life. My way. Fuck a government telling me what to do.

I guess I am the crazy one. It's just human nature to want to be controlled and be told what to do. Viva authoritarianism. Dom me harder, Donny.

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[+] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

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[+] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No part of my argument had anything to do with safety or health.

A person's autonomy is their business. Leave them well alone. Their life, their path.

Or I guess alcohol doesn't have a purpose then, and we can get rid of it too?

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[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Everyone is really concerned, GHiLA. We think you might have an addiction. But we're here to help. Please remember the bans are only for under 18s. You have to remember. Look at your wife, she's dying of.. asphyxiation or something. Because you keep hotboxing the bedroom.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago

Oh I've got like three at least, that I know about.

You guys are one of them.

uwu

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The fact is it impacts everyone else, the public services will have to deal with the fall out.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

Vaping companies like Vape4life were writing petitions on Facebook arguing that Vaping was great to help smokers stop smoking.

Meanwhile, the same dodgy companies were selling vapes to 10 year olds online (they had NOTHING in place to stop underage people buying them). What possible health use could underage people have for vapes?

Meanwhile, every vaping fuckwit around was smoking vapes illegally on trains and in heavily populated public areas. And every asshole (including my ex housemate) was vaping inside (I literally told her not to. I want to do high altitude mountaineering in the future so I need my lungs. And she was getting super cheap rent). When you tell them to do it outside, they always say "vaping is just water, it's perfectly safe".

If you want to "eat the rich", you should be telling Smoking companies to fuck off. They're lying to their userbase, whilst their exec's become wealthy millionaires. And when their clients get cancer (or the people around them get cancer), they run down the clock on the lawsuit so they don't lose any money.

Fuck Tabacco and cigarette companies.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also, I had some absolute wanker the other day throw a lit cigerette on my nature strip (I was amazed, and I was sitting in the car), on a hot day. I'm lucky I saw him do it and he didn't start a grass fire (and yet, if one was started, he'd be responsible, not the tobacco company). Everyone in cigarette companies knows this happens and could provide a way to extinguish them in the box, but instead, they know people are chucking them on the ground

i have attached the photo of the guy (if anyone in Victoria happens to recognise him)

And it is super common for people to throw cigarettes out of their car, leave them on the ground, or throw their vape cartridges on the ground. Smokers and Cigerette companies had EVERY opportunity to be respectful. There might be some respectful ones, but, there are plenty who aren't

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

For real. A whole fucking country infantilizing themselves. Pathetic to see bootlicking at this level.

And it’s not even a good government. I guess I could empathize, if the government was not corrupt and delivering fantastic quality services. But they’re shitting on these people, and telling them to say thank you for it.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

Wow. You're such a rebel. /s

If you want to fight authority, start by fighting against the rich assholes causing 30% of stonemasons(and others) to get silicosis from engineered stone. The guys making the money aren't the ones getting sick. Help them live long enough to get justice and get paid.

Fight against the companies and rich assholes who are still giving lots of people cancer by using asbestos products to save money (and are putting asbestos in products and not declaring it). The people manufacturing this shit are getting rich, not the people installing it (or who have it installed)

And fight back by helping people live longer, so they can get justice against tabacco companies for lying to them and making shitty claims like claiming menthol cigarettes are medicinal. Companies like Vape4lyf had nothing in place to prevent sales of vapes to kids whilst starting petitions claiming they were needed for quitting smoking (what possible use could kids have for vapes other than to START vaping). Every shitty vape company out there is basically advertising their products as safe

Do you think the execs give a shit if your kid dies? Nope, they have lawyers on retainer, and they've become increasingly good at fighting any lawsuits and running down the clock. Do you think they give a shit if the people around other smokers die from second hand smoke? Nope, because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt a specific company caused an issue. People are suffering.

Nothing says "badass" like a guy who is willing to fondle the balls of the marlboro man whilst he lies to you and dodges responsibility. Vaping is Tabacco 2.0. They're making the exact same claims they did in the past for other products.

I'd suggest you grow a pair and stand up for people. That takes courage. It's not bootlicking. What you're doing is bending over for millionaires who give no fucks about you, and defending them

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Prohibition never works. Even if you put an anti-corporate spin on it.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

How do you figure?

Seems to be working against Asbestos companies.

And if anyone tries to cut up engineered stone onsite, it will be obvious. In fact, companies are getting actively fined. And my mate who got silicosis I'm fairly sure got a payout.

Seems to be working fine with our Gun control.

Seems to be working for lots of food items

Seems to be working for lots of things. You simply don't realise it works, because you're not aware of them.

If Vaping is banned, shitheads aren't going to be vaping in public blowing smoke in our faces. And, if they're smoking at home, people like myself can kick them out. I'm not too fussed about the ones who are respectable (I had a housemate who smoked weed, but they did it outside).

Do you really think allow free sale of highly addictive drugs like meth is a good idea? Fuck No.

You keep telling yourself you're a badass fighting against bootlickers or whatever. But you're actually just a pawn for the multi-billion dollar Tobacco industry

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The fact that you think banning asbestos in construction is similar to prohibition is evidence your education system is fucked too.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

The fact that you took my entire response and only responded to 1 part of it says everything. Prohibition has been effective against drugs. Just look at Denver as an example for what happens when they're legal vs not. The whole city smells like weed now and it seems like everyone is using. If you legalise cocaine, guess what will happen?

Before prohibition drugs were being sold at every street corner.

Even you know your argument is weak, so I won't be responding anymore. If you want cancer so much, there are easier ways for you to get it. Id rather the people around me live, and I'd rather live a long life too. As others have said, go get help. You have an addiction. I don't care already since I live in Australia and happy that shit like that is being increasingly banned.

And it's ridiculous you accuse others of bootlicking in this case. There's nothing more sheepish that sucking up to companies that trade YOUR health and YOUR money so THEY can be fucking rich

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Prohibition has been effective against drugs.

Hahahahaha