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[–] 195 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I dunno - I’m pretty sure I’d choose the modern MacBook Pro’s ports over any of these other options.

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  • [–] 121 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    We’re mindlessly bashing Apple here, we don’t need your sensible reasoning!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    If you got that kind of money to spend on a laptop, sure. I really don't.

    Edit: to be clear, I know this is a stack of Mac's in OPs picture, but the development that the entry models have basically no ports at all is a more recent development. Having to pick the pro just to be able to connect your stuff without dongles or hubs is a bit insane considering the price (and price difference).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    It really depends on what you use your laptop for. My 2013 MBP lasted 9 years and was how I got my work done. That comes out to 76¢ per day, and I make a fair bit more than that per hour.

    But if you’re looking for a personal computer to surf the internet, yes, that could be cost prohibitive. But then it also matters less what device you buy.

    As for ports, I’ve never needed a dongle on the 2013 model. I did need one for a USB A drive on the newest model, but this little thing has solved that problem easily. I didn’t even have to buy that since my monitor has USB A ports – I was just too lazy to reach around the back to use it every time. I’m not sure I understand all the complaints about the occasional need for a dongle.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I have an M2 Air, and all mine is missing from that is the SDXC slot, third TB4 and HDMI, and honestly, it's fine. A third TB4/USB would be nice for when I'm doing my radio show and have to plug in my controller and mic while also charing my phone, but I already have a hub so it doesn't bother me.

    That said, the limited ports on my M1 mini are quite problematic. Two TB3/USB and two USB3, but one of them is lost to a DisplayPort cable for my second monitor. So I have a desktop computer that functionally has three USB sockets, which ain't great. But again, I have a hub, so it's not a huge problem.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    An ethernet port is essential for any computer.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Exactly! What are you going to do if your router dies (or you mess something up fiddling w/ things)? I may only need it once/year or so, but when I do, it's really important and I most likely can't find the dongle.

    An RJ-45 port could totally fit on there if they used one of those flip-down things that Dell has on their professional line.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    It’s really not. I have one on my work laptop and have never plugged an Ethernet jack into it. That stays permanently in my dock and gets transferred to the laptop via USB-C. All other non-desk work is done via … WiFi. Shock! Literally can’t tell the difference when making money.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Power, HDMI, a few USBs, and headphones, all you'll ever likely need.

    There's no doubt a dongle for anything else.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Unless you want a desk setup. I have 2 monitors, kb, mouse, external dac, usb extension for thumbdrives, ethernet, usb soundcard for my mic and a kvm. That's dp, hdmi, 6 usb-a, ethernet and I still sometimes plug-in 1-3 devices to charge them.

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  • [+] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's not about it being practical. It's about if it's actually doable or not and how well it would work. Having the native ports will always be better that using a hub/dock.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Strongly disagree. I use a laptop with a thunderbolt dock. Being able to plug in a single cable to provide power, connect my monitor, all of my input devices, Ethernet, and anything else in a single cable is awesome. If I had to plug 10 things in manually it would be quite cumbersome. I disconnect the laptop daily as I bring it between work and home, as well as use it, well, as a portable laptop.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Kudos to you.

    What you could do now is step out of your bubble and consider that other people have different use cases and might need or prefer to have more native ports.

    You literally lose nothing by having more connectivity options.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Except the device inevitably ends up bigger and chunkier.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't see how that's so terrible. It would slightly phisically bigger (if that) but it wouldn't weight more and you wouldn't need to carry around a hub.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Of course it will weigh more, those ports and the boards to drive them weigh something.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you're worried about 50-100gr then you should hit the gym my friend.

    Also, that hub you'd have to carry around weighs more than just having the ports on the laptop.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If I'm carrying my laptop around the house, I'm carrying just the laptop, not any peripherals, whereas the dongle is in the laptop bag or on my desk.

    And I quite like being able to carry my laptop around with one hand.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Congrats for you. However, if you consider that other people use their computer in a different way, would it really be that bad if your computer were imperceptibly heavier so that everyone could use use it how they prefer?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, because plugging in one thing is way harder than plugging in six.

    This is a classic use case for a laptop dock.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's a very lazy, short-sighted and first world problem way of looking at this issue.

    Why would having the option of using either a hub or plugging things on separately be worse than only being able to use a hub?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It sounds like you need a desktop computer or a docking station.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Like I already said to another user: No. There are more than a few use cases that require a mobile set up for demos for example but that you’d also want to use in a desk setting. For example, architects or sw dev.

    Why are you making an effort to justify getting shafted by corporations?

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  • [+] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    You're still missing the forest for the trees.

    There's no real reason why you'd have to choose having a few ports + a hub or tons of ports + the option of using a hub.

    If you prefer to "consolidate" your devices to a single poinf of failure on an external device then by all means, go ahead. I just think that it's pretty crappy that options are being artificially limited and users of all people are making excuses for it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In this situation a hub is still better. You can pack all the stuff away plugged into the hub for easier set up. If your plugging that all into your laptop, you’ll need to plug it all back in again when you move.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, props to Apple for bringing back the card reader and HDMI. When I bought my early 2015 MBP I specifically went with the older model because these ports were removed on the newer one which also came with the shitty butterfly keyboard as well which they've also since discontinued.

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