▲ 342 ▼ What are your programming hot takes? (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by 257m@lemmy.ml to c/programming@programming.dev 886 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (6 children) GNU make is confusing as hell and shouldn't be used in today's world. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] akd@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Counterpoint: it's indispensable and nothing really fills the same niche. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Andy@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago I appreciate these brave words. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree that make is confusing at first but I don't think it should fall out of use. It's a great tool that I use everyday it is far simpler than its competitors once you get used to it. It is basically glorified bash scripting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it can't handle spaces and tabs without causing a crisis, it doesn't belong on this side of 1989. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah that was annoying when I first found out about that but I use tabs for indentation anyways so it doesn't make a difference for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree, yet I also see no good universal alternative. Every language has a nice tool to do things in it's ecosystem, but the moment you need to coordinate two languages or go beyond simple stuff, make is the only good option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yep. And honestly most language specific versions of make still have glaring missing features. Which doesn't matter, until when it really matters. I want to embrace a make replacement, but if the pattern holds, they will be prying make out of my cold dead hands to make me presentable for my funeral. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This comment fits the spirit of the question better than anything else in here, I will say that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] normalmighty@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Meanwhile, Windows has become drastically better for development over the past few years. There are still some drawbacks, but a ton of the anti windows circlejerking in tech spaces is caused by people who haven't touched windows as a dev environment in 10+ years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago Seconding WSL, but that kinda proves the point. The solution to making Windows dev better was to add Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not OP, But WSL and its recent improvements come to mind. If you're deploying on a Linux box it makes it pretty seamless to develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So Windows is better than Linux because it allows you to use a restricted version of Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akd@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Counterpoint: it's indispensable and nothing really fills the same niche. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Andy@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago I appreciate these brave words. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree that make is confusing at first but I don't think it should fall out of use. It's a great tool that I use everyday it is far simpler than its competitors once you get used to it. It is basically glorified bash scripting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it can't handle spaces and tabs without causing a crisis, it doesn't belong on this side of 1989. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah that was annoying when I first found out about that but I use tabs for indentation anyways so it doesn't make a difference for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it can't handle spaces and tabs without causing a crisis, it doesn't belong on this side of 1989. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah that was annoying when I first found out about that but I use tabs for indentation anyways so it doesn't make a difference for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 257m@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah that was annoying when I first found out about that but I use tabs for indentation anyways so it doesn't make a difference for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree, yet I also see no good universal alternative. Every language has a nice tool to do things in it's ecosystem, but the moment you need to coordinate two languages or go beyond simple stuff, make is the only good option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yep. And honestly most language specific versions of make still have glaring missing features. Which doesn't matter, until when it really matters. I want to embrace a make replacement, but if the pattern holds, they will be prying make out of my cold dead hands to make me presentable for my funeral. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yep. And honestly most language specific versions of make still have glaring missing features. Which doesn't matter, until when it really matters. I want to embrace a make replacement, but if the pattern holds, they will be prying make out of my cold dead hands to make me presentable for my funeral. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This comment fits the spirit of the question better than anything else in here, I will say that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] normalmighty@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Meanwhile, Windows has become drastically better for development over the past few years. There are still some drawbacks, but a ton of the anti windows circlejerking in tech spaces is caused by people who haven't touched windows as a dev environment in 10+ years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago Seconding WSL, but that kinda proves the point. The solution to making Windows dev better was to add Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not OP, But WSL and its recent improvements come to mind. If you're deploying on a Linux box it makes it pretty seamless to develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So Windows is better than Linux because it allows you to use a restricted version of Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago Seconding WSL, but that kinda proves the point. The solution to making Windows dev better was to add Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not OP, But WSL and its recent improvements come to mind. If you're deploying on a Linux box it makes it pretty seamless to develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So Windows is better than Linux because it allows you to use a restricted version of Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago Seconding WSL, but that kinda proves the point. The solution to making Windows dev better was to add Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not OP, But WSL and its recent improvements come to mind. If you're deploying on a Linux box it makes it pretty seamless to develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So Windows is better than Linux because it allows you to use a restricted version of Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So Windows is better than Linux because it allows you to use a restricted version of Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Drewelite@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 point 2 years ago And the full version of windows. Honestly I love Linux with Wine for the same reason. I just encounter more hiccups that way rather than the WSL route. It's just more complicated to emulate GUIs. permalink fedilink source parent