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[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I speak French and English, would someone be so kind as to explain this to me permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The word is "cousin", which is written the same in both German and French, but the pronunciation shown is the most German one imaginable. Mainly due to the "ng" sound at the end as the other reply mentioned, the wiktionary has that pronunciations as the 3rd one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago German pronunciation of cousin is "coo-zeng" permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's not [kuzɛ̃], but with ng as in "boing". Also unless we're talking loans or Occitan substrate there's no voiced velar nasal in French at all, in a language full of nasal everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) This did not elucidate anything to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then you may be technically able to speak both English and French, but either or both with terrible accent. French cousin and English boing don't end with the same sound. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I speak both fluently and with proper accent. Maybe I don't understand phonetic notation? Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? edit: thank you all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You just did a terrible job at explaining this, don't accuse anyone of anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago In addition to what others already said: The French pronunciation is also accepted in Germany and in the view of many more prestigious. I once received bad reactions for using the one in the meme permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The word is "cousin", which is written the same in both German and French, but the pronunciation shown is the most German one imaginable. Mainly due to the "ng" sound at the end as the other reply mentioned, the wiktionary has that pronunciations as the 3rd one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago German pronunciation of cousin is "coo-zeng" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's not [kuzɛ̃], but with ng as in "boing". Also unless we're talking loans or Occitan substrate there's no voiced velar nasal in French at all, in a language full of nasal everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) This did not elucidate anything to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then you may be technically able to speak both English and French, but either or both with terrible accent. French cousin and English boing don't end with the same sound. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I speak both fluently and with proper accent. Maybe I don't understand phonetic notation? Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? edit: thank you all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You just did a terrible job at explaining this, don't accuse anyone of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) This did not elucidate anything to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then you may be technically able to speak both English and French, but either or both with terrible accent. French cousin and English boing don't end with the same sound. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I speak both fluently and with proper accent. Maybe I don't understand phonetic notation? Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? edit: thank you all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You just did a terrible job at explaining this, don't accuse anyone of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then you may be technically able to speak both English and French, but either or both with terrible accent. French cousin and English boing don't end with the same sound. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I speak both fluently and with proper accent. Maybe I don't understand phonetic notation? Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? edit: thank you all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You just did a terrible job at explaining this, don't accuse anyone of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) I speak both fluently and with proper accent. Maybe I don't understand phonetic notation? Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? edit: thank you all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] netthier@feddit.org [S] 3 points 2 years ago* Many germans pronounce "cousin" like coosang. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just explain what Germany is saying to France in the meme? Germany is ending the word "cousin" with the same sound as English "boing". There is no simpler explanation, and don't pretend like it depends on knowing IPA. Understanding depends on knowing how "cousin" and "boing" are pronounced correctly. If you cannot understand it from this, if you can't hear how those two sounds differ, then I can't help you. Maybe listen to some audio files of those nasals until you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I recorded my voice pronouncing cousin in english, french, and the german way i've learned about. https://voca.ro/15D3C8Ao5jxU Your description of the meme was just bad, the other commenters made it clear what the joke was. Cheers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago* The french word 'cousin' (which is used as a loanword in German), but with a weird German pronounciation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You just did a terrible job at explaining this, don't accuse anyone of anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago In addition to what others already said: The French pronunciation is also accepted in Germany and in the view of many more prestigious. I once received bad reactions for using the one in the meme permalink fedilink source parent