▲ 367 ▼ Owning a home has rarely been this much more expensive than renting (finance.yahoo.com) submitted 2 years ago by GiddyGap@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) This ignores the difference after 5-10 years. Rent keeps going up. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maintenance cost and property taxes too though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) What you forget is the cost of opportunity: the money that is stuck in a house is money that would yield income if it was invested somewhere else. Long term stock markets typically return 7%+, while rental return (or the rent you save by buying) can be anywhere from 3 to 7% depending on market, minus maintenance and other holding costs. So there's no fast and hard guarantee that owning or renting is best - you need to run a proper simulation with the right parametres taking everything into account. In markets with low rental returns, renting is typically optimal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028 permalink fedilink source parent [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) What even is maintenance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whithom@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Leaky roof? Nah, throw some clear tarp over it and you’ve got a sun roof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Thousands per year, usually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) My rent went down year over year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whithom@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago What is your mortgage on the tent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I bet you also think you pay income taxes cause they take it out of every check and then fail to connect the dots they gave it all back and then some during tax season. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maintenance cost and property taxes too though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) What you forget is the cost of opportunity: the money that is stuck in a house is money that would yield income if it was invested somewhere else. Long term stock markets typically return 7%+, while rental return (or the rent you save by buying) can be anywhere from 3 to 7% depending on market, minus maintenance and other holding costs. So there's no fast and hard guarantee that owning or renting is best - you need to run a proper simulation with the right parametres taking everything into account. In markets with low rental returns, renting is typically optimal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028 permalink fedilink source parent [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) What even is maintenance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whithom@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Leaky roof? Nah, throw some clear tarp over it and you’ve got a sun roof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Thousands per year, usually. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] seth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) What you forget is the cost of opportunity: the money that is stuck in a house is money that would yield income if it was invested somewhere else. Long term stock markets typically return 7%+, while rental return (or the rent you save by buying) can be anywhere from 3 to 7% depending on market, minus maintenance and other holding costs. So there's no fast and hard guarantee that owning or renting is best - you need to run a proper simulation with the right parametres taking everything into account. In markets with low rental returns, renting is typically optimal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) What you forget is the cost of opportunity: the money that is stuck in a house is money that would yield income if it was invested somewhere else. Long term stock markets typically return 7%+, while rental return (or the rent you save by buying) can be anywhere from 3 to 7% depending on market, minus maintenance and other holding costs. So there's no fast and hard guarantee that owning or renting is best - you need to run a proper simulation with the right parametres taking everything into account. In markets with low rental returns, renting is typically optimal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me give you an overly simplified example. You are in a property market where rental yield is 3% (happens in some cities) You could put a million dollar into buying a house and save $30k in rent every year or You could rent a million dollar house for $30k, and invest your million dollar in the market at 7%, returning $70k per year Obviously this gets more complicated with mortgages, taxes, maintenance, interest rates, etc. but the gist of it is that owning your home always comes with an opportunity cost, every dollar of house equity is a dollar that isn't invested somewhere else. Depending on circumstances, renting might be the most economical choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] seth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Seems like inflation goes up faster than long term stocks, especially in 2025-2028 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) What even is maintenance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whithom@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Leaky roof? Nah, throw some clear tarp over it and you’ve got a sun roof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Thousands per year, usually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whithom@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Leaky roof? Nah, throw some clear tarp over it and you’ve got a sun roof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Tenants better appreciate the improvement. If they don't, their rent should be raised! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Thousands per year, usually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) My rent went down year over year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whithom@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago What is your mortgage on the tent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I bet you also think you pay income taxes cause they take it out of every check and then fail to connect the dots they gave it all back and then some during tax season. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whithom@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago What is your mortgage on the tent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I bet you also think you pay income taxes cause they take it out of every check and then fail to connect the dots they gave it all back and then some during tax season. permalink fedilink source parent