▲ 323 ▼ Pakistani religious body declares using VPN is against Islamic law (www.voanews.com) submitted 2 years ago by annHowe@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/28167168
[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) So boning 8 year olds is cool, but a VPN is a step too far? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) Boning 8 year olds is tradition. Vpn is new scary tech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Boning 8 year olds is tradition. For whom? You? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago Finally, someone who calls it how it is🙏🗣️🗯️ permalink fedilink source parent [+] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip -11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Zionism and Islamophobia always goes hand in hand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you saying dislike of child molestation is Islamaphobic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated? I get that isn't explicitly encouraging it, but I've never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It's a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy. Maybe you meant to say, "Acknowledging" instead of "Alleging"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] rikudou@lemmings.world -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) Boning 8 year olds is tradition. Vpn is new scary tech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Boning 8 year olds is tradition. For whom? You? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Boning 8 year olds is tradition. For whom? You? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago Finally, someone who calls it how it is🙏🗣️🗯️ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip -11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Zionism and Islamophobia always goes hand in hand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you saying dislike of child molestation is Islamaphobic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated? I get that isn't explicitly encouraging it, but I've never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It's a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy. Maybe you meant to say, "Acknowledging" instead of "Alleging"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] rikudou@lemmings.world -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you saying dislike of child molestation is Islamaphobic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated? I get that isn't explicitly encouraging it, but I've never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It's a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy. Maybe you meant to say, "Acknowledging" instead of "Alleging"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] rikudou@lemmings.world -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated? I get that isn't explicitly encouraging it, but I've never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It's a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy. Maybe you meant to say, "Acknowledging" instead of "Alleging"? permalink fedilink source parent [+] rikudou@lemmings.world -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated? I get that isn't explicitly encouraging it, but I've never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) The user didn't point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn't a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what's called child marriage. This is general knowledge. There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn't make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods. You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don't want to say cause I don't want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it's not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born. Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tanka@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Tanka@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tanka@endlesstalk.org 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] mwguy@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Edit: forgot to add that it's not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen. This is a bald faced lie. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It didn't happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said "extremist groups". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago What do you mean it didn't happen? That law is working it's way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That's not extremist, that's just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] mwguy@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It's a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy. Maybe you meant to say, "Acknowledging" instead of "Alleging"? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rikudou@lemmings.world -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls! permalink fedilink source parent