▲ 198 ▼ Swords suck, spears are a way more effective weapon (lemmy.nz) submitted 2 years ago by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLLv8E2pWdk&ab_channel=Lindybeige
[–] BlazarNGC@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I’m just saying you better be hot fire with that spear. Otherwise you’re getting cut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Absolutely not. It's the other way around there's a reason any army get spears while swords are just a simbol for nobility. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That reason is price to produce and skill to wield my dude permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not an expert, are you? All the in dephts historical weapon stuff I met in my life has told me and confirmed me spears win against swords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I didn’t say spears didn’t win against swords. Spears are easier to wield, it’s a pointy stick. It requires less training to use. Requires significantly less materials to make. They are a standoff weapon though, in close combat a sword or small bladed weapon wins. Different tools for different purposes. The information I’m parroting is from experts and historians and literature and everything I’ve read over my 4 decades, it’s common knowledge at this point and not really worth “arguing” imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I always find it fascinating the kind of things people will say because they saw a YouTube video once while ignoring all the actual historical context, like the Romans building their empire by fighting spear phalanxes with sword (and javelin) based legions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Romans swords were not actual swords. They also had shields and that changes things a lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Ugh. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago At close range the spear becomes a staff which can block the knife and give a concussion thwack. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Absolutely not. It's the other way around there's a reason any army get spears while swords are just a simbol for nobility. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That reason is price to produce and skill to wield my dude permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not an expert, are you? All the in dephts historical weapon stuff I met in my life has told me and confirmed me spears win against swords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I didn’t say spears didn’t win against swords. Spears are easier to wield, it’s a pointy stick. It requires less training to use. Requires significantly less materials to make. They are a standoff weapon though, in close combat a sword or small bladed weapon wins. Different tools for different purposes. The information I’m parroting is from experts and historians and literature and everything I’ve read over my 4 decades, it’s common knowledge at this point and not really worth “arguing” imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I always find it fascinating the kind of things people will say because they saw a YouTube video once while ignoring all the actual historical context, like the Romans building their empire by fighting spear phalanxes with sword (and javelin) based legions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Romans swords were not actual swords. They also had shields and that changes things a lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Ugh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That reason is price to produce and skill to wield my dude permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not an expert, are you? All the in dephts historical weapon stuff I met in my life has told me and confirmed me spears win against swords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I didn’t say spears didn’t win against swords. Spears are easier to wield, it’s a pointy stick. It requires less training to use. Requires significantly less materials to make. They are a standoff weapon though, in close combat a sword or small bladed weapon wins. Different tools for different purposes. The information I’m parroting is from experts and historians and literature and everything I’ve read over my 4 decades, it’s common knowledge at this point and not really worth “arguing” imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not an expert, are you? All the in dephts historical weapon stuff I met in my life has told me and confirmed me spears win against swords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I didn’t say spears didn’t win against swords. Spears are easier to wield, it’s a pointy stick. It requires less training to use. Requires significantly less materials to make. They are a standoff weapon though, in close combat a sword or small bladed weapon wins. Different tools for different purposes. The information I’m parroting is from experts and historians and literature and everything I’ve read over my 4 decades, it’s common knowledge at this point and not really worth “arguing” imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I didn’t say spears didn’t win against swords. Spears are easier to wield, it’s a pointy stick. It requires less training to use. Requires significantly less materials to make. They are a standoff weapon though, in close combat a sword or small bladed weapon wins. Different tools for different purposes. The information I’m parroting is from experts and historians and literature and everything I’ve read over my 4 decades, it’s common knowledge at this point and not really worth “arguing” imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* There's this really annoying trend on the YouTube HEMA-type channels where they give unarmored and unshielded amateur college students swords and spears to "test" swords and spears and then crown the spear best weapon, no notes, no context. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Well my anedoctal evidence is diametrically opposite to yours. It's time to invoke the sacred sources. https://swordis.com/blog/spear-vs-sword/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Your sacred source might as well be what I just said, so cool thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I always find it fascinating the kind of things people will say because they saw a YouTube video once while ignoring all the actual historical context, like the Romans building their empire by fighting spear phalanxes with sword (and javelin) based legions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Romans swords were not actual swords. They also had shields and that changes things a lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Ugh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Romans swords were not actual swords. They also had shields and that changes things a lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Ugh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago At close range the spear becomes a staff which can block the knife and give a concussion thwack. permalink fedilink source parent