▲ 1180 ▼ Donald Trump vows to lock up political enemies if he returns to White House (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world 254 comments fedilink hide all child comments Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’
[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) He also accomplished the deaths of millions of Americans during a pandemic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world -24 points 2 years ago (2 children) To be fair, a lot of those deaths were inevitable. Trump did not create the anti-vax movement. He just taught it to torture itself with horse dewormer to own the libs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair and accurate, he lied to the country about the seriousness of the outbreak. He's on recording in Feb 2020 flat-out telling Bob Woodward it's going to be bad, it's much more deadly than the flu. At the same time he's publicly calling it a hoax, that its going to go away, like a miracle. The people that trusted him didn't take it serious because he told them not to, and then accused everyone taking it serious to be fools or intentionally trying to create a panic and steal their liberties. Had he simply allowed the scientists and the CDC to speak candidly and deferred to them, thousands upon thousands of lives would have been saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Oh I don't mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I'm just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn't create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. Sadly, you're correct, this is very much not new. That's a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I'd say conservatives need new material, but it's very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago Hard disagree. He specifically said it would go away in two weeks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world -24 points 2 years ago (2 children) To be fair, a lot of those deaths were inevitable. Trump did not create the anti-vax movement. He just taught it to torture itself with horse dewormer to own the libs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair and accurate, he lied to the country about the seriousness of the outbreak. He's on recording in Feb 2020 flat-out telling Bob Woodward it's going to be bad, it's much more deadly than the flu. At the same time he's publicly calling it a hoax, that its going to go away, like a miracle. The people that trusted him didn't take it serious because he told them not to, and then accused everyone taking it serious to be fools or intentionally trying to create a panic and steal their liberties. Had he simply allowed the scientists and the CDC to speak candidly and deferred to them, thousands upon thousands of lives would have been saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Oh I don't mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I'm just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn't create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. Sadly, you're correct, this is very much not new. That's a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I'd say conservatives need new material, but it's very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago Hard disagree. He specifically said it would go away in two weeks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair and accurate, he lied to the country about the seriousness of the outbreak. He's on recording in Feb 2020 flat-out telling Bob Woodward it's going to be bad, it's much more deadly than the flu. At the same time he's publicly calling it a hoax, that its going to go away, like a miracle. The people that trusted him didn't take it serious because he told them not to, and then accused everyone taking it serious to be fools or intentionally trying to create a panic and steal their liberties. Had he simply allowed the scientists and the CDC to speak candidly and deferred to them, thousands upon thousands of lives would have been saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Oh I don't mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I'm just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn't create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. Sadly, you're correct, this is very much not new. That's a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I'd say conservatives need new material, but it's very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Oh I don't mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I'm just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn't create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. Sadly, you're correct, this is very much not new. That's a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I'd say conservatives need new material, but it's very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn't create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it doesn't. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well if our system does what it's supposed to and brings the dumb bastard and his enablers to justice, we'll get our wish. But if it doesn't, and the system continues to prove that much of its mechanisms merely 'work' on an honor system and those who operate in bad faith can continue to ignore it, you can expect a constitutional crisis of epic proportions. Trump belongs in a cage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new. Sadly, you're correct, this is very much not new. That's a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I'd say conservatives need new material, but it's very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago Hard disagree. He specifically said it would go away in two weeks. permalink fedilink source parent