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[–] -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Indonesia seems want to become China's pet really bad

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are you sad that Indonesia doesn’t want to become the United States’ pet?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Are you happy Indonesia is becoming China's pet?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I’m happy when any state chooses China as a partner over the imperial hegemon.

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    (map is ~8 years old)

    “Forward-defense ring,” a perfectly normal turn of phrase and not at all Orwellian Newspeak.

    (map is ~11 years old)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dude at least the US used to be a democratic country. China is a repressive dictatorship. Try to mention Tienanmen square anywhere

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The US has never been and will never be a democracy, because it was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote.[Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

    China, in contrast, practices democratic centralism. And its no wonder that the Chinese people are very satisfied with their government, because their quality of life has been improving over the last few generations[2], while ours has been dropping over the last ~40 years of grinding neoliberalism.

    Your understanding of China comes exclusively from the imperial core propaganda you & I have been exposed to our entire lives. You’ll never understand it in any other way unless you investigate outside of the bubble we live in.

    Try to mention Tienanmen square anywhere

    You can in fact mention Tienanmen square in China. The idea that you can’t comes to you from Western propaganda.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As Indonesian, this is just our "Bebas dan Aktif" foreign policy that can be traced back to the first President and for some reason that also starting point of the Non-Aligned Movement forum.

    Nothing special here as we also maintain good relationship with Russia and US. Yes perhaps this may confuse some westerner but the country managed to do so.

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