▲ 37 ▼ Elon Musk’s daily $1 million giveaway to voters can continue, Pennsylvania judge rules (www.cnn.com) submitted 2 years ago by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/politics@sh.itjust.works 13 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which made no functional difference, as elections are today and Musk didn't stop doing the lottery during the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) They can still penalize him and the PAC, make an example of him for next time around, etc. The election being over doesn’t mean Elon’s suddenly in the clear and the legal action is dropped. No different than if Trump loses and ends up back in court again for all the lawsuits he can’t delay any longer for election reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Not to mention that Elon’s lawyer is making it worse by trying to claim it wasn’t a lottery to begin with. They’re claiming that every paid winner was actually preplanned and a spokesperson, so they’re basically admitting to scamming everyone who signed up for “the lottery.” Also admitting that it wasn’t actually open to every registered voter in a swing state, if they’re now claiming everyone was picked and a paid spokesperson. This is a time delay FAFO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, if Trump doesn't win. And if Kamala wins, then if he can drag the case out until the next election, there's a chance she'll lose the next one and he'll get a chance at a pardon. If Trump wins, I doubt the Justice department will prosecute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) There is no way in hell he will drag it to the next election. Only reason he could do that this time is because they took a very, very long time to build the case, and it was close enough to this election that he could play those cards through Cannon and the Supreme Court. All the cases are built now, they are ready to go. If he loses twice in a row then his claim of a political “mandate” to anything or that he should be saved for another shot at the presidency is over, and his current scheduled sentencing and further prosecution can begin. And yes, if he wins, probably none of this will happen. So go vote against him, everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Also, fun fact, since he’s facing state charges of violating state laws, and not federal, Trump couldn’t pardon Elon or get him off the hook even if he does win. At least, not without some corruption involved. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, looks like Elon is going to get away with it. There goes the role of law. Welcome to the next stage of the collapse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) They can still penalize him and the PAC, make an example of him for next time around, etc. The election being over doesn’t mean Elon’s suddenly in the clear and the legal action is dropped. No different than if Trump loses and ends up back in court again for all the lawsuits he can’t delay any longer for election reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Not to mention that Elon’s lawyer is making it worse by trying to claim it wasn’t a lottery to begin with. They’re claiming that every paid winner was actually preplanned and a spokesperson, so they’re basically admitting to scamming everyone who signed up for “the lottery.” Also admitting that it wasn’t actually open to every registered voter in a swing state, if they’re now claiming everyone was picked and a paid spokesperson. This is a time delay FAFO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, if Trump doesn't win. And if Kamala wins, then if he can drag the case out until the next election, there's a chance she'll lose the next one and he'll get a chance at a pardon. If Trump wins, I doubt the Justice department will prosecute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) There is no way in hell he will drag it to the next election. Only reason he could do that this time is because they took a very, very long time to build the case, and it was close enough to this election that he could play those cards through Cannon and the Supreme Court. All the cases are built now, they are ready to go. If he loses twice in a row then his claim of a political “mandate” to anything or that he should be saved for another shot at the presidency is over, and his current scheduled sentencing and further prosecution can begin. And yes, if he wins, probably none of this will happen. So go vote against him, everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Also, fun fact, since he’s facing state charges of violating state laws, and not federal, Trump couldn’t pardon Elon or get him off the hook even if he does win. At least, not without some corruption involved. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, looks like Elon is going to get away with it. There goes the role of law. Welcome to the next stage of the collapse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Not to mention that Elon’s lawyer is making it worse by trying to claim it wasn’t a lottery to begin with. They’re claiming that every paid winner was actually preplanned and a spokesperson, so they’re basically admitting to scamming everyone who signed up for “the lottery.” Also admitting that it wasn’t actually open to every registered voter in a swing state, if they’re now claiming everyone was picked and a paid spokesperson. This is a time delay FAFO. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, if Trump doesn't win. And if Kamala wins, then if he can drag the case out until the next election, there's a chance she'll lose the next one and he'll get a chance at a pardon. If Trump wins, I doubt the Justice department will prosecute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) There is no way in hell he will drag it to the next election. Only reason he could do that this time is because they took a very, very long time to build the case, and it was close enough to this election that he could play those cards through Cannon and the Supreme Court. All the cases are built now, they are ready to go. If he loses twice in a row then his claim of a political “mandate” to anything or that he should be saved for another shot at the presidency is over, and his current scheduled sentencing and further prosecution can begin. And yes, if he wins, probably none of this will happen. So go vote against him, everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Also, fun fact, since he’s facing state charges of violating state laws, and not federal, Trump couldn’t pardon Elon or get him off the hook even if he does win. At least, not without some corruption involved. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, looks like Elon is going to get away with it. There goes the role of law. Welcome to the next stage of the collapse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) There is no way in hell he will drag it to the next election. Only reason he could do that this time is because they took a very, very long time to build the case, and it was close enough to this election that he could play those cards through Cannon and the Supreme Court. All the cases are built now, they are ready to go. If he loses twice in a row then his claim of a political “mandate” to anything or that he should be saved for another shot at the presidency is over, and his current scheduled sentencing and further prosecution can begin. And yes, if he wins, probably none of this will happen. So go vote against him, everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Also, fun fact, since he’s facing state charges of violating state laws, and not federal, Trump couldn’t pardon Elon or get him off the hook even if he does win. At least, not without some corruption involved. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, looks like Elon is going to get away with it. There goes the role of law. Welcome to the next stage of the collapse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Also, fun fact, since he’s facing state charges of violating state laws, and not federal, Trump couldn’t pardon Elon or get him off the hook even if he does win. At least, not without some corruption involved. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, looks like Elon is going to get away with it. There goes the role of law. Welcome to the next stage of the collapse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Yep, we are now officially the dumbest country. Still remains to be seen if Elon gets out of state charges though. Or if they’re still willing to withstand wrath for justice. Trump still couldn’t officially do anything about that without unconstitutional threats. permalink fedilink source parent