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Threads' New Terms and Conditions Affects the Fediverse (wedistribute.org)
submitted 2 years ago* by [M] to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
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This shouldn't come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.

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[–] 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Everybody, please understand what defederating means. It will not stop the defederated instance from getting the data. It just means you don't pull theirs.

If you want to actually control who gets data, you'd have to switch to a service like Streams. ActivityPub cannot prevent anyone from pulling data. It only allows an instance to decide not to pull from a specific location.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Everybody, please understand what defederating means. It will not stop the defederated instance from getting the data. It just means you don't pull theirs.

    I'm OK with that. If I wanted to talk to facebook users I'd be on facebook.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Ok, but the number of people that think defederation is in anyway going to prevent this is fairly high.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I see it less about preventing than about sending a clear "DO NOT WANT" message.

    I've been around since the prevailing attitude across all common internet services was anti-corporate, anti-commercialism. You sound like maybe you have too. We lost that battle. It'd be nice to win this one, even if in a way that matters only to Fediverse users. I know at the end of the day Meta won't care, and it won't stop them from slurping up our data.

    I still think there is value to the DO NOT WANT message, and when Musk or MS try the same thing, I hope we send the same message to them. Let there be one tiny corner of the internet that isn't monetized and enshittified to death. Let the users who are happy to use those companies' platforms use those companies platforms.

    I get that this is tangential to your complaint here, and I get it. I don't care what peoples' reasons are though. Every instance should support the fedipact, and when Meta finally starts federating I'll leave my comfy kbin.social home 30 minutes later if it doesn't.

    I hope each new revelation convinces more instance owners to do so, and more users to ask their instance owners to do so.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yeah, I can get behind this "DO NOT WANT" plan. Sounds sensible. Most of the other comments here sound like a knee-jerk reaction without any understanding of the way fediverse works, just panicking mob mentality.

    But then again I don't understand shit about the fediverse myself, so I'm not putting too much stock into my own impression. We'll see how things shake out.

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