▲ 1180 ▼ Donald Trump vows to lock up political enemies if he returns to White House (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world 254 comments fedilink hide all child comments Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 124 points 2 years ago (1 child) This dude absolutely cannot get near the white house again. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wahots@pawb.social 59 points 2 years ago (3 children) Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That's how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference. I've voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It's kind of amazing to see it in action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) So here is the rub. Sit down with a true Trumper sometime, and show them these sorts of quotes. They ARE voting for this. They DO support this. They think this is the right and just thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won't do any good, but it's easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 18 points 2 years ago Asking others and even yourself "why?" when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don't leave it to just one layer. Ask "why?" after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you're asking can get. It's one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view. I've gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because "others told me so", which caused me to look into things more. Of course this won't work with really stubborn people but it's a good start to make at least some people think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows. “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities. “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society. “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned. “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's dog shit and helps keep things nice and shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago It doesn't have to be that way, haha. If we voted in great enough numbers, you'd overpower the 'mander and could rewrite the rules on how boundaries are drawn, which should be by an independent third party, NOT the parties themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago A surprising number of elections (at many levels) gave been decided by a tiny number of votes. In the United States in 2018, 88 state legislative elections were decided by less than half a percent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wahots@pawb.social 59 points 2 years ago (3 children) Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That's how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference. I've voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It's kind of amazing to see it in action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) So here is the rub. Sit down with a true Trumper sometime, and show them these sorts of quotes. They ARE voting for this. They DO support this. They think this is the right and just thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won't do any good, but it's easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 18 points 2 years ago Asking others and even yourself "why?" when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don't leave it to just one layer. Ask "why?" after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you're asking can get. It's one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view. I've gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because "others told me so", which caused me to look into things more. Of course this won't work with really stubborn people but it's a good start to make at least some people think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows. “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities. “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society. “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned. “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.” permalink fedilink source parent [+] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's dog shit and helps keep things nice and shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago It doesn't have to be that way, haha. If we voted in great enough numbers, you'd overpower the 'mander and could rewrite the rules on how boundaries are drawn, which should be by an independent third party, NOT the parties themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago A surprising number of elections (at many levels) gave been decided by a tiny number of votes. In the United States in 2018, 88 state legislative elections were decided by less than half a percent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UFO64@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) So here is the rub. Sit down with a true Trumper sometime, and show them these sorts of quotes. They ARE voting for this. They DO support this. They think this is the right and just thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won't do any good, but it's easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 18 points 2 years ago Asking others and even yourself "why?" when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don't leave it to just one layer. Ask "why?" after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you're asking can get. It's one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view. I've gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because "others told me so", which caused me to look into things more. Of course this won't work with really stubborn people but it's a good start to make at least some people think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows. “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities. “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society. “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned. “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won't do any good, but it's easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 18 points 2 years ago Asking others and even yourself "why?" when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don't leave it to just one layer. Ask "why?" after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you're asking can get. It's one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view. I've gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because "others told me so", which caused me to look into things more. Of course this won't work with really stubborn people but it's a good start to make at least some people think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UFO64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows. “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities. “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society. “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned. “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veloxization@yiffit.net 18 points 2 years ago Asking others and even yourself "why?" when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don't leave it to just one layer. Ask "why?" after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you're asking can get. It's one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view. I've gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because "others told me so", which caused me to look into things more. Of course this won't work with really stubborn people but it's a good start to make at least some people think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UFO64@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows. “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities. “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society. “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned. “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.” permalink fedilink source parent
[+] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's dog shit and helps keep things nice and shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago It doesn't have to be that way, haha. If we voted in great enough numbers, you'd overpower the 'mander and could rewrite the rules on how boundaries are drawn, which should be by an independent third party, NOT the parties themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's dog shit and helps keep things nice and shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago It doesn't have to be that way, haha. If we voted in great enough numbers, you'd overpower the 'mander and could rewrite the rules on how boundaries are drawn, which should be by an independent third party, NOT the parties themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago A surprising number of elections (at many levels) gave been decided by a tiny number of votes. In the United States in 2018, 88 state legislative elections were decided by less than half a percent permalink fedilink source parent