▲ 198 ▼ Visual Studio for Mac Retirement Announcement - Visual Studio Blog (devblogs.microsoft.com) submitted 2 years ago by Spyros@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 years ago (6 children) Is this supposed to give me confidence in .Net MAU? permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] loics2@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well at this point, don't trust any framework Microsoft pushes. They told everyone UWP was the future for Windows after WPF, then stopped for WinUI and the app SDK... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gk99@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago The problem with UWP is that nobody liked or wanted it, so obviously it died. Developers got locked into a walled garden, Xbox users saw no benefit (until recently with emulators, but I digress), Windows phone users practically didn't exist to build apps for, and PC gamers got the real short end of the stick with everything becoming a buggy, locked-down, performance-hampering, feature-lacking mess. Outside of letting Microsoft half-ass port some Xbox titles to PC, it was pretty much useless. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago I feel dumb for falling for the Xamarin.Forms train. I have zero confidence in any MS UI framework including Blazor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spyros@programming.dev [S] 4 points 2 years ago I have started using Avalonia, and even though I am still learning, I am very satisfied with it. There are growing pains obviously, but as you said, I have no confidence in Microsoft UI frameworks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago MAUI is an open source project that's a part of the .NET Foundation. One would hope that instills a bit more confidence, but I have yet to see any projects actually using it. Regardless, it's forkable and permissively licensed (MIT), so the lifetime is theoretically indefinite. permalink fedilink source parent [+] attn_dfct_dev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant MAUI permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Like the island that's a part of Hawaii? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] wth@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago MAUI’s pretty undercooked at the moment. Editing UIs in raw XML, incomplete control set, bugs. One day could be useful, and there are some 3rd parties providing controls… but of course this is microsoft so they will work on it for 2-3 years, and then write something new, throwing MAUI into the dustbin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] loics2@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well at this point, don't trust any framework Microsoft pushes. They told everyone UWP was the future for Windows after WPF, then stopped for WinUI and the app SDK... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gk99@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago The problem with UWP is that nobody liked or wanted it, so obviously it died. Developers got locked into a walled garden, Xbox users saw no benefit (until recently with emulators, but I digress), Windows phone users practically didn't exist to build apps for, and PC gamers got the real short end of the stick with everything becoming a buggy, locked-down, performance-hampering, feature-lacking mess. Outside of letting Microsoft half-ass port some Xbox titles to PC, it was pretty much useless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gk99@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago The problem with UWP is that nobody liked or wanted it, so obviously it died. Developers got locked into a walled garden, Xbox users saw no benefit (until recently with emulators, but I digress), Windows phone users practically didn't exist to build apps for, and PC gamers got the real short end of the stick with everything becoming a buggy, locked-down, performance-hampering, feature-lacking mess. Outside of letting Microsoft half-ass port some Xbox titles to PC, it was pretty much useless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago I feel dumb for falling for the Xamarin.Forms train. I have zero confidence in any MS UI framework including Blazor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spyros@programming.dev [S] 4 points 2 years ago I have started using Avalonia, and even though I am still learning, I am very satisfied with it. There are growing pains obviously, but as you said, I have no confidence in Microsoft UI frameworks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago MAUI is an open source project that's a part of the .NET Foundation. One would hope that instills a bit more confidence, but I have yet to see any projects actually using it. Regardless, it's forkable and permissively licensed (MIT), so the lifetime is theoretically indefinite. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] attn_dfct_dev@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant MAUI permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Like the island that's a part of Hawaii? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant MAUI permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Like the island that's a part of Hawaii? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Like the island that's a part of Hawaii? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wth@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago MAUI’s pretty undercooked at the moment. Editing UIs in raw XML, incomplete control set, bugs. One day could be useful, and there are some 3rd parties providing controls… but of course this is microsoft so they will work on it for 2-3 years, and then write something new, throwing MAUI into the dustbin. permalink fedilink source parent