▲ 948 ▼ FCC says “too bad” to ISPs complaining that listing every fee is too hard (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 138 comments fedilink hide all child comments Aww ... poor little ISPs.
[–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Seems like a friendly enough response was given to your comment and you automatically assumed they were only interested in saying you're wrong. Having a discussion is not "proving everyone wrong" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That was my point, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see what you mean too. I think a lot of people on Lemmy are just terminally online and so they don't have regular conversations with real people all that often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? You are the one who ranted about people proving you wrong. You made a big deal out of someone being perfectly pleasant replying to you. Your viewpoint of anyone responding to you with anything other than agreement as an attack seems to be the real issue. I'm not upset, you shouldn't be either, it's not that big of a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially when they were wrong. They're obviously going to pass along any actual cost they have one way or another. That's not what's shady or what's being addressed. It's the $60 ***(plus $100 in unlisted fees we literally won't even let our support provide or estimate on signup) to lie about prices that's the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I recommend reading either the quoted text, or the article. Preferably both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I did. "Passing on costs" is entirely irrelevant to everything. The entire point of all of this is that service providers are using nebulous fee structures to lie about pricing. That's the entire thing. There is nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That was my point, thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see what you mean too. I think a lot of people on Lemmy are just terminally online and so they don't have regular conversations with real people all that often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? You are the one who ranted about people proving you wrong. You made a big deal out of someone being perfectly pleasant replying to you. Your viewpoint of anyone responding to you with anything other than agreement as an attack seems to be the real issue. I'm not upset, you shouldn't be either, it's not that big of a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see what you mean too. I think a lot of people on Lemmy are just terminally online and so they don't have regular conversations with real people all that often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? You are the one who ranted about people proving you wrong. You made a big deal out of someone being perfectly pleasant replying to you. Your viewpoint of anyone responding to you with anything other than agreement as an attack seems to be the real issue. I'm not upset, you shouldn't be either, it's not that big of a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see what you mean too. I think a lot of people on Lemmy are just terminally online and so they don't have regular conversations with real people all that often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? You are the one who ranted about people proving you wrong. You made a big deal out of someone being perfectly pleasant replying to you. Your viewpoint of anyone responding to you with anything other than agreement as an attack seems to be the real issue. I'm not upset, you shouldn't be either, it's not that big of a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see what you mean too. I think a lot of people on Lemmy are just terminally online and so they don't have regular conversations with real people all that often. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? You are the one who ranted about people proving you wrong. You made a big deal out of someone being perfectly pleasant replying to you. Your viewpoint of anyone responding to you with anything other than agreement as an attack seems to be the real issue. I'm not upset, you shouldn't be either, it's not that big of a deal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially when they were wrong. They're obviously going to pass along any actual cost they have one way or another. That's not what's shady or what's being addressed. It's the $60 ***(plus $100 in unlisted fees we literally won't even let our support provide or estimate on signup) to lie about prices that's the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I recommend reading either the quoted text, or the article. Preferably both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I did. "Passing on costs" is entirely irrelevant to everything. The entire point of all of this is that service providers are using nebulous fee structures to lie about pricing. That's the entire thing. There is nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I recommend reading either the quoted text, or the article. Preferably both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I did. "Passing on costs" is entirely irrelevant to everything. The entire point of all of this is that service providers are using nebulous fee structures to lie about pricing. That's the entire thing. There is nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I did. "Passing on costs" is entirely irrelevant to everything. The entire point of all of this is that service providers are using nebulous fee structures to lie about pricing. That's the entire thing. There is nothing else. permalink fedilink source parent