▲ 385 ▼ Fairphone 5 Released (shop.fairphone.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by baseless_discourse@mander.xyz to c/technology@beehaw.org 194 comments fedilink hide all child comments With 5 years of OS support and 8 years of security update. Related threads: https://lemmy.world/post/4130880 https://lemmy.world/post/4129394 https://feddit.nl/post/2555704
[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It’s 8 apparently 5 years is as long as most phones that I used last so there would be no point to buy it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] acastcandream@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fair wages for the people making the phone is also a selling point of this phone. It's not just about repairability. That said I'm also not writing this from a Fairphone, because the price is too high for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That may be true but how are they guaranteeing this on a component level? As far as I know, they use off the shelf stuff so they only have assembly wages. And that doesn’t justify the price imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 point 2 years ago You can take a look at their impact reports they release every year: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fairphone-Impact-Report-2022.pdf They keep close track of materials used and wage paid for all their suppliers. They also pay wage bonuses to the workers at some of their suppliers (page 41). permalink fedilink source parent [–] hascat@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago slower How fast do you need your phone to be for sending messages, streaming video, or browsing the web? Every phone made in the last decade can do these things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago The high price actually cancels the point of the repairability. I can get a similar phone for easily €400-500 less. If I budget that extra price for repairs, I can get the battery and screen replaced quite a few times. I say that as an FP4 owner, who did the same calculation mistake there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) According to Fairphone "We plan at least 5 Android OS version updates after Android 13". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's see. There is still no Android 13 on the FP4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biscuits@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 point 2 years ago At least CalyxOS, DivestOS offer Android 13 builds for FP4 (and obviously LineageOS, but it doesn't have OTA updates, afaik) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] acastcandream@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fair wages for the people making the phone is also a selling point of this phone. It's not just about repairability. That said I'm also not writing this from a Fairphone, because the price is too high for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That may be true but how are they guaranteeing this on a component level? As far as I know, they use off the shelf stuff so they only have assembly wages. And that doesn’t justify the price imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 point 2 years ago You can take a look at their impact reports they release every year: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fairphone-Impact-Report-2022.pdf They keep close track of materials used and wage paid for all their suppliers. They also pay wage bonuses to the workers at some of their suppliers (page 41). permalink fedilink source parent [–] hascat@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago slower How fast do you need your phone to be for sending messages, streaming video, or browsing the web? Every phone made in the last decade can do these things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago The high price actually cancels the point of the repairability. I can get a similar phone for easily €400-500 less. If I budget that extra price for repairs, I can get the battery and screen replaced quite a few times. I say that as an FP4 owner, who did the same calculation mistake there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fair wages for the people making the phone is also a selling point of this phone. It's not just about repairability. That said I'm also not writing this from a Fairphone, because the price is too high for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That may be true but how are they guaranteeing this on a component level? As far as I know, they use off the shelf stuff so they only have assembly wages. And that doesn’t justify the price imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 point 2 years ago You can take a look at their impact reports they release every year: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fairphone-Impact-Report-2022.pdf They keep close track of materials used and wage paid for all their suppliers. They also pay wage bonuses to the workers at some of their suppliers (page 41). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That may be true but how are they guaranteeing this on a component level? As far as I know, they use off the shelf stuff so they only have assembly wages. And that doesn’t justify the price imo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 point 2 years ago You can take a look at their impact reports they release every year: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fairphone-Impact-Report-2022.pdf They keep close track of materials used and wage paid for all their suppliers. They also pay wage bonuses to the workers at some of their suppliers (page 41). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 point 2 years ago You can take a look at their impact reports they release every year: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fairphone-Impact-Report-2022.pdf They keep close track of materials used and wage paid for all their suppliers. They also pay wage bonuses to the workers at some of their suppliers (page 41). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hascat@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago slower How fast do you need your phone to be for sending messages, streaming video, or browsing the web? Every phone made in the last decade can do these things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago The high price actually cancels the point of the repairability. I can get a similar phone for easily €400-500 less. If I budget that extra price for repairs, I can get the battery and screen replaced quite a few times. I say that as an FP4 owner, who did the same calculation mistake there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) According to Fairphone "We plan at least 5 Android OS version updates after Android 13". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's see. There is still no Android 13 on the FP4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biscuits@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 point 2 years ago At least CalyxOS, DivestOS offer Android 13 builds for FP4 (and obviously LineageOS, but it doesn't have OTA updates, afaik) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's see. There is still no Android 13 on the FP4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biscuits@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 point 2 years ago At least CalyxOS, DivestOS offer Android 13 builds for FP4 (and obviously LineageOS, but it doesn't have OTA updates, afaik) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biscuits@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 point 2 years ago At least CalyxOS, DivestOS offer Android 13 builds for FP4 (and obviously LineageOS, but it doesn't have OTA updates, afaik) permalink fedilink source parent