▲ 2208 ▼ Young climate activist tells Greenpeace to drop ‘old-fashioned’ anti-nuclear stance (www.theguardian.com) submitted 3 years ago by sv1sjp@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 1121 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] vankappa@lemmy.world -15 points 3 years ago (3 children) Please don't down vote just because you don't agree. Please please don't let this be reddit again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm not downvoting because I don't agree, I'm downvoting because the statement is factually inaccurate - coal power produces more radioactive waste than nuclear power does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vankappa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't the whole point to have a discussion, instead of hiding (related) opinions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I'm not here to discuss oil and gas industry funded propaganda and disinfo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) what's wrong with downvoting because I don't agree? Isn't that the whole point of downvotes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Not really. Ideally people should only downvote when something isn't contributing to the conversation, and if you disagree you reply to it and voice your disagreement. But people are going to be people, so it eventually always turns into a "disagree" button, cause it's much easier than commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] digdug@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Who decided that's how downvoting should be used? There is no official rulebook (especially on the fediverse), and etiquette is decided as a group, but there isn't clear consensus on this. The technical function of the downvote is to push the comment down far enough that people won't see it. And so people will continue to use it as a way to communicate that they do not approve of the comment. And telling people to stop downvoting comments they don't like is trying to enforce a rule they never agreed to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago* I was adding context to the "downvote button is a disagree button". We're in complete agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you determine if something is not contributing to the conversation though? For example, if I made a pro vaxx post and someone posted some anti vaxx propaganda, would you downvote it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago Isn't that just a soft 'rule' established via Reddiquette? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm not downvoting because I don't agree, I'm downvoting because the statement is factually inaccurate - coal power produces more radioactive waste than nuclear power does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vankappa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't the whole point to have a discussion, instead of hiding (related) opinions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I'm not here to discuss oil and gas industry funded propaganda and disinfo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vankappa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't the whole point to have a discussion, instead of hiding (related) opinions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I'm not here to discuss oil and gas industry funded propaganda and disinfo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I'm not here to discuss oil and gas industry funded propaganda and disinfo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) what's wrong with downvoting because I don't agree? Isn't that the whole point of downvotes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Not really. Ideally people should only downvote when something isn't contributing to the conversation, and if you disagree you reply to it and voice your disagreement. But people are going to be people, so it eventually always turns into a "disagree" button, cause it's much easier than commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] digdug@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Who decided that's how downvoting should be used? There is no official rulebook (especially on the fediverse), and etiquette is decided as a group, but there isn't clear consensus on this. The technical function of the downvote is to push the comment down far enough that people won't see it. And so people will continue to use it as a way to communicate that they do not approve of the comment. And telling people to stop downvoting comments they don't like is trying to enforce a rule they never agreed to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago* I was adding context to the "downvote button is a disagree button". We're in complete agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you determine if something is not contributing to the conversation though? For example, if I made a pro vaxx post and someone posted some anti vaxx propaganda, would you downvote it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago Isn't that just a soft 'rule' established via Reddiquette? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Not really. Ideally people should only downvote when something isn't contributing to the conversation, and if you disagree you reply to it and voice your disagreement. But people are going to be people, so it eventually always turns into a "disagree" button, cause it's much easier than commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] digdug@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Who decided that's how downvoting should be used? There is no official rulebook (especially on the fediverse), and etiquette is decided as a group, but there isn't clear consensus on this. The technical function of the downvote is to push the comment down far enough that people won't see it. And so people will continue to use it as a way to communicate that they do not approve of the comment. And telling people to stop downvoting comments they don't like is trying to enforce a rule they never agreed to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago* I was adding context to the "downvote button is a disagree button". We're in complete agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you determine if something is not contributing to the conversation though? For example, if I made a pro vaxx post and someone posted some anti vaxx propaganda, would you downvote it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago Isn't that just a soft 'rule' established via Reddiquette? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] digdug@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Who decided that's how downvoting should be used? There is no official rulebook (especially on the fediverse), and etiquette is decided as a group, but there isn't clear consensus on this. The technical function of the downvote is to push the comment down far enough that people won't see it. And so people will continue to use it as a way to communicate that they do not approve of the comment. And telling people to stop downvoting comments they don't like is trying to enforce a rule they never agreed to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago* I was adding context to the "downvote button is a disagree button". We're in complete agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago* I was adding context to the "downvote button is a disagree button". We're in complete agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you determine if something is not contributing to the conversation though? For example, if I made a pro vaxx post and someone posted some anti vaxx propaganda, would you downvote it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago Isn't that just a soft 'rule' established via Reddiquette? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent