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Stack Overflow Survey: 80% of developers are unhappy (shiftmag.dev)
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[–] 104 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I would say 80% of employees are unhappy, but I don't have any data to back this up.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Can confirm. Was quite unhappy in my mechanical engineering job, had an opportunity to develop something nice in python, was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

    I just threw up in my mouth a little. Fifteen years ago, "I'll stick to Excel" was a (bad, but) defensible position in data automation. Today that's just insanity.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm still in a mechanical engineering world so just saying INT and FLOAT has people running away. Excel is the "safe zone" for them, sadly it means that I'll just be doing the VBA part and oh gawd please get me out of here...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    excel has python support now! you may still get away with it

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's cloud based though... Not ideal. I get why they had to do that (they didn't want to expose people to the Python infra shit show) but it's still kind of a shame.

    Would be better if they added Typescript support IMO.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google "data driven" leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google “data driven” leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

    It's cargo cult mentality. They look at FANGs and see them as success stories, and thus they try to be successful by mimicking visible aspects of FANG's way of doing things, regardless of having the same context or even making sense.

    I once interviewed for a big name non-FANG web-scale service provider whose recruiter bragged about their 7-round interview process. When I asked why on earth they need 7 rounds of interviews, the recruiter said they optimized the process down from the 12 rounds of interviews they did in the past, and they do it because that's what FANGs do. Except FANGs do typically 4, with the last being an on-site.

    But they did 7, because FANGs. Disregard "why".

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Yeah. I, like most leaders, spent some time learning all that crap. It was awful and worse than useless.

    Google and Meta's secrets are recruiting top talent to for top dollars, and then buying every start up that threatens their empire. There's no secrets to great management to be had there.

    I just threw out my copy of "product engineering at Google".

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Or maybe 80% of people are unhappy. No data here either

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    80% seems too high, but the US Surgeon General declared a loneliness epidemic https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/surgeon-general-social-connection-advisory.pdf

    And Gallup claims that 29% of Americans have been diagnosed with depression at one point: https://news.gallup.com/poll/505745/depression-rates-reach-new-highs.aspx

    So... That is not good. It is almost like humans evolved to live in tight knit, walkable communities.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    And Gallup claims that 29% of Americans have been diagnosed with depression at one point:

    That really doesn't mean anything. The only requirement for succumbing to a depression is being alive, because all it takes is something bad happening in your life (loss lf friend, loved one, even pet, etc) to fall into a pit of despair.

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