▲ 858 ▼ Climate activists target jets, yachts and golf in a string of global protests against luxury (apnews.com) submitted 3 years ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 118 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) what your suggesting takes time and equipment (and some experience with seasoning). the time alone can make it cost-prohibitive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're being a bit too selective here. Let's be honest, there's a lot more to making good tasting vegan meals than just rice and beans. In general I've found that eating vegan is more expensive than the equivalent alternative. If you want more people to eat vegan meals they also have to taste good, and you want to mix up your meals so you're not eating the same thing every day. For burger equivalents any vegan meat alternative is more expensive than a regular burger (I'm really hoping that cultured meat can help turn this around). For meat alternatives seitan tastes awesome, but it's way more expensive than most meat itself. Tofu tastes great when you know how to prepare it well, and that's going to be closer to alternative meat prices. Egg alternatives are more expensive than eggs. For dairy alternatives, milk alternatives are more expensive than milk itself. Vegan butter is more expensive than regular butter. Vegan cheese is way more expensive than regular cheese (especially if you want it to actually taste good). Vegan yogurt is more expensive than regular yogurt. Vegan mayonnaise is way more expensive than regular mayo. Vegan ice cream is way more expensive than regular ice cream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream. I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison. Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) what your suggesting takes time and equipment (and some experience with seasoning). the time alone can make it cost-prohibitive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 point 3 years ago Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) where did I say they are more expensive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago billions of people i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago The fact is you are not willing to make the change i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) your dodge where you talk about the time it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) billions of people seem to manage. there are not billions of vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You have sent multiple replies to the same comment i know. what's you're point? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago You need to pick a singular response why? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're being a bit too selective here. Let's be honest, there's a lot more to making good tasting vegan meals than just rice and beans. In general I've found that eating vegan is more expensive than the equivalent alternative. If you want more people to eat vegan meals they also have to taste good, and you want to mix up your meals so you're not eating the same thing every day. For burger equivalents any vegan meat alternative is more expensive than a regular burger (I'm really hoping that cultured meat can help turn this around). For meat alternatives seitan tastes awesome, but it's way more expensive than most meat itself. Tofu tastes great when you know how to prepare it well, and that's going to be closer to alternative meat prices. Egg alternatives are more expensive than eggs. For dairy alternatives, milk alternatives are more expensive than milk itself. Vegan butter is more expensive than regular butter. Vegan cheese is way more expensive than regular cheese (especially if you want it to actually taste good). Vegan yogurt is more expensive than regular yogurt. Vegan mayonnaise is way more expensive than regular mayo. Vegan ice cream is way more expensive than regular ice cream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream. I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison. Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream. I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison. Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream. I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison. Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent