▲ 102 ▼ Trio of professors win Nobel economics prize for work on post-colonial wealth (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/world@lemmy.world 51 comments fedilink hide all child comments Alt title: 3 Old White Men Discover Colonialsm Bad
[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is not true for the Nobel Prize in Economics, which is not one of the five official Nobel Prizes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) The prize in economic sciences is awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the important bit is getting lost in the shuffle over particulars: This research and the conclusion it presents are not original to three Western men from a first-world university. They've been discussed and explored at length by the academies of the post-colonial states who are dealing with the aftereffects of their own colonial experiences. This is a Eurocentric/Western-centric move on the part of, frankly, a bunch of privileged and insulated people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Does "Daron Acemoğlu" sound like a Western name to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Some critics argue that the prestige of the Prize in Economic Sciences derives in part from its association with the Nobel Prizes, an association that has often been a source of controversy. Among them is the Swedish human rights lawyer Peter Nobel, a great-grandnephew of Alfred Nobel.[40] Nobel accuses the awarding institution of misusing his family's name, and states that no member of the Nobel family has ever had the intention of establishing a prize in economics.[41] He explained that "Nobel despised people who cared more about profits than society's well-being", saying that "There is nothing to indicate that he would have wanted such a prize", and that the association with the Nobel prizes is "a PR coup by economists to improve their reputation".[40] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Why should anyone care what Nobel's descendants think? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) The prize in economic sciences is awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the important bit is getting lost in the shuffle over particulars: This research and the conclusion it presents are not original to three Western men from a first-world university. They've been discussed and explored at length by the academies of the post-colonial states who are dealing with the aftereffects of their own colonial experiences. This is a Eurocentric/Western-centric move on the part of, frankly, a bunch of privileged and insulated people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Does "Daron Acemoğlu" sound like a Western name to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Some critics argue that the prestige of the Prize in Economic Sciences derives in part from its association with the Nobel Prizes, an association that has often been a source of controversy. Among them is the Swedish human rights lawyer Peter Nobel, a great-grandnephew of Alfred Nobel.[40] Nobel accuses the awarding institution of misusing his family's name, and states that no member of the Nobel family has ever had the intention of establishing a prize in economics.[41] He explained that "Nobel despised people who cared more about profits than society's well-being", saying that "There is nothing to indicate that he would have wanted such a prize", and that the association with the Nobel prizes is "a PR coup by economists to improve their reputation".[40] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Why should anyone care what Nobel's descendants think? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the important bit is getting lost in the shuffle over particulars: This research and the conclusion it presents are not original to three Western men from a first-world university. They've been discussed and explored at length by the academies of the post-colonial states who are dealing with the aftereffects of their own colonial experiences. This is a Eurocentric/Western-centric move on the part of, frankly, a bunch of privileged and insulated people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Does "Daron Acemoğlu" sound like a Western name to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Does "Daron Acemoğlu" sound like a Western name to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Excuse me? How am I judging him? And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name. That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist. And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so. You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist. You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You were given one last chance to explain your accusation and you blew it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Some critics argue that the prestige of the Prize in Economic Sciences derives in part from its association with the Nobel Prizes, an association that has often been a source of controversy. Among them is the Swedish human rights lawyer Peter Nobel, a great-grandnephew of Alfred Nobel.[40] Nobel accuses the awarding institution of misusing his family's name, and states that no member of the Nobel family has ever had the intention of establishing a prize in economics.[41] He explained that "Nobel despised people who cared more about profits than society's well-being", saying that "There is nothing to indicate that he would have wanted such a prize", and that the association with the Nobel prizes is "a PR coup by economists to improve their reputation".[40] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Why should anyone care what Nobel's descendants think? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Why should anyone care what Nobel's descendants think? permalink fedilink source parent