▲ 87 ▼ MI5 spy chief says Russia and Iran are behind a 'staggering' rise in deadly plots (apnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by fukhueson@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 12 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I’ve been attacked socially and economically by the capitalist arseholes ruining my country. China or Russia are not going to do more damage to me than my government or its ally (America) already has. We’ve been in war forever, it’s called a class war and it’s the only one that matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You've never worked in China. As rough as it is here, you could not imagine a life there, working 2x as hard for 1/2 as much hope. They just have dramatically lower aspirations, specifically they aspire to live to have kids, at which point it's all their problem. The reason the West has gotten so much worse is now we have to compete with people who have literally nothing and would kill for 1/10th what we have. They're just as capitalist as we are, they just include more direct violence in their interpretation of capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I aspire to have a roof over my head at old age, I can’t begin to imagine having children. The reason the west has gotten so much worse is the same reason it’s shit in China; capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well then I have some bad news for you, they're a hell of a lot more capitalist than we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You think you'd be better as a Chinese or Russian citizen? Because that's the damage they'd like to do to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, which of those countries do you think have those? The vast majority of Chinese and Russian citizens in what the west would consider absolutely horrible conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have 0 idea what you're talking about. Free healthcare? Yeah, I'd rather see an American veterinarian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You've never worked in China. As rough as it is here, you could not imagine a life there, working 2x as hard for 1/2 as much hope. They just have dramatically lower aspirations, specifically they aspire to live to have kids, at which point it's all their problem. The reason the West has gotten so much worse is now we have to compete with people who have literally nothing and would kill for 1/10th what we have. They're just as capitalist as we are, they just include more direct violence in their interpretation of capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I aspire to have a roof over my head at old age, I can’t begin to imagine having children. The reason the west has gotten so much worse is the same reason it’s shit in China; capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well then I have some bad news for you, they're a hell of a lot more capitalist than we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I aspire to have a roof over my head at old age, I can’t begin to imagine having children. The reason the west has gotten so much worse is the same reason it’s shit in China; capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well then I have some bad news for you, they're a hell of a lot more capitalist than we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well then I have some bad news for you, they're a hell of a lot more capitalist than we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You think you'd be better as a Chinese or Russian citizen? Because that's the damage they'd like to do to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, which of those countries do you think have those? The vast majority of Chinese and Russian citizens in what the west would consider absolutely horrible conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have 0 idea what you're talking about. Free healthcare? Yeah, I'd rather see an American veterinarian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] basmatii@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, which of those countries do you think have those? The vast majority of Chinese and Russian citizens in what the west would consider absolutely horrible conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have 0 idea what you're talking about. Free healthcare? Yeah, I'd rather see an American veterinarian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry, which of those countries do you think have those? The vast majority of Chinese and Russian citizens in what the west would consider absolutely horrible conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You have 0 idea what you're talking about. Free healthcare? Yeah, I'd rather see an American veterinarian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] basmatii@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent