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[–] 10 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

You should engage them in debate though. The people who need to do so are always such cowards that they'd rather ban and run.

It's easy as fuck to outmaneuver one of those dipshits. And it's funny as fuck when they stomp off mad because you made them look like an idiot.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    But it's not a debate. They have no interest in listening to you, any facts you present, nor presenting any disputing facts.

    Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. ― George Bernard Shaw

    I'd argue it's better to make fun of the fascists!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    But it’s not a debate. They have no interest in listening to you, any facts you present, nor presenting any disputing facts.

    the debate is not for them. it is for potential impartial observer who just encountered the problem for the first time and is now forming an opinion.

    unfortunately it is really hard, because since the onset of the machine learning generators the pile of crap is literally endless.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago*

    But it's not a debate. They have no interest in listening to you,

    Adam doesn't debate Bob to convince Bob of Adam's viewpoint. Adam debates Bob to convince their shared audience: Charlie, David, Edward, Frank, George, Harry...

    When Bob is ejected from this forum, Charlie, (et al), never hear that debate and are never convinced of Adam's views. They aren't inoculated against Bob's logic. When they come across Bob uncontested in another forum, they may be persuaded; they fall into his echo chamber. When they bring their half-formed ideas back to your forum, they are banned as apologists rather than debated.

    Ejecting Bob makes your forum better. Adam debating Bob makes the world better.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Fascism demands a response. When it stands without objection, it grows. We are obligated to respond, less to convince the fascist to change their ways, and more to extend a branch to those passers-by who might get swept away.

    Sometimes that responder is me. Sometimes it should be you.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The response can also be a closed fist or the end of a bayonet.

    Not a first goal, but still a time tested answer.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sometimes that is the best response.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's the only worthwhile response. If you try to debate them, they will just toy with you and give garbage arguments, then go silent when they run out of useless arguments.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I fully agree. Why have a forum if you’re not going to use it to show how stupid chuds really are?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You both don't realize the sheer volume of chuds. It's great, until you realize it's endless.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    That doesnt matter, it's orders of magnitude faster to generate their BS than it is to write even one well-reasoned rebuttal.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    All I know is that the lead-poisoned boomers are going to die soon and we won’t have nearly as much of that bullshit to deal with.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The election results all over the world say otherwise

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Those are just the people that vote. If we didn’t have MLs telling each other that voting is useless maybe the election results would be different.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Those are just the people that vote

    and those are only people that matter.

    If we didn’t have (...)

    if my aunt had wheels, she would be a bike.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe try it before you give up?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)
    • A: we outnumber them
    • B: we don't
    • A: try democracy

    are you trying to say something or are you just generating random words?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I disagree that we don’t outnumber them. We absolutely do. If good people stop saying voting is pointless and encourage people to vote instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I disagree that we don’t outnumber them

    And I told you polls everywhere prove you wrong, to which you said "try democracy". Thanks for the recap. It still doesn't make sense :D

    Yeah, some people don't vote, but this group also has people from both sides.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The largest group of non-voters are the young, who overwhelmingly support progressive positions.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)
    1. that overwhelmingness is unfortunately less overwhelming than you probably think and it is getting worse with time, as russian intelligence continues to influence the online space.
    2. it doesn't matter if they don't vote
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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    that overwhelmingness is unfortunately less overwhelming than you probably think and it is getting worse with time, as russian intelligence continues to influence the online space.

    So you're agreeing with me, then?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    So you’re agreeing with me, then?

    no. if that is your conclusion from what i wrote, i am stopping wasting my time on you. bye.

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