β² 777 βΌ Average systemd debate (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* by renzev@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 124 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You could just use systemd mounts like a normal person. Fstab is for critical partitions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] renzev@lemmy.world [S] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fstab is for critical partitions Hush everyone, don't tell this guy about noauto, it'll burst his bubble permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've never seen it used in the wild permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jesus, I mount everything manually from noauto, except root. If nfs isn't available, I don't want my system to hang, typing mount takes 2 seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available? Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent [β] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This happened to me when Debian switched from SysV to systemd. I am not the only person who experienced this (e.g., https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147478 ). This is not to say the systemd behavior is wrong, but it essentially changed the behavior of fstab. Whether this is Debian's fault, Arch's fault (per the above link), systemd's fault, or my fault is a fair question. But this committed that most egregious of sins per our Lord and Savior Torvalds it broke my userspace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago That was a really long time ago. (2015) I don't understand why you are holding a grudge for almost 10 years. Most people have never used a system without systemd. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] renzev@lemmy.world [S] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fstab is for critical partitions Hush everyone, don't tell this guy about noauto, it'll burst his bubble permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've never seen it used in the wild permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jesus, I mount everything manually from noauto, except root. If nfs isn't available, I don't want my system to hang, typing mount takes 2 seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available? Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've never seen it used in the wild permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jesus, I mount everything manually from noauto, except root. If nfs isn't available, I don't want my system to hang, typing mount takes 2 seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available? Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jesus, I mount everything manually from noauto, except root. If nfs isn't available, I don't want my system to hang, typing mount takes 2 seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available? Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available? Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up. The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This happened to me when Debian switched from SysV to systemd. I am not the only person who experienced this (e.g., https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147478 ). This is not to say the systemd behavior is wrong, but it essentially changed the behavior of fstab. Whether this is Debian's fault, Arch's fault (per the above link), systemd's fault, or my fault is a fair question. But this committed that most egregious of sins per our Lord and Savior Torvalds it broke my userspace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago That was a really long time ago. (2015) I don't understand why you are holding a grudge for almost 10 years. Most people have never used a system without systemd. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago That was a really long time ago. (2015) I don't understand why you are holding a grudge for almost 10 years. Most people have never used a system without systemd. permalink fedilink source parent
